I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Polter-Cow - Nov 02, 2009 11:45:10 am PST #16640 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And my MP3 has an embarrassing but totally suitable bandom name.

iChemical Romance?


msbelle - Nov 02, 2009 11:46:20 am PST #16641 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

We just had a big wooha meeting last Friday, so that is why. They thought I had left out these huge life factors that would do a lot to explain behaviors.

wrt to Zahara - from the Eth adoptive parents list I am on, it is apparently not uncommon for the white parents to get comments from complete strangers about the state of their children's hair - good and bad.


Cashmere - Nov 02, 2009 11:50:30 am PST #16642 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have no idea where this stuff comes from.

Owen and Olivia make up stories like this. It may very well be something for the therapist to handle but I do know that kids sometimes concoct wild-ass stories to explain their behavior or their feelings. My favorite was when Liv said all her food in her tummy turned into five babies. She even gasped and giggled and said her babies kicked.

As for Owen, he changes what he wants to be called ALL the time. Right now he's Alien Boy from Planet 51.

As my mother would say, somebody airing their underpinnings outta door. How completely issue-laden is that woman?

That woman doesn't have issues, she has subscriptions. My kids are only a pair, we don't travel or have the hectic schedules the Jolie-Pitts have and they often look a fright--messed hair, dirty clothes or faces. THEY ARE YOUNG KIDS. Kids tend to look a mess from time to time. Some folks need to MTOB.


§ ita § - Nov 02, 2009 11:50:50 am PST #16643 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Taking care of black folks' hair is a different thing from white folks, but I'm depressed at what so many people seem to want from a happy and healthy-looking four year old.

Kids tend to look a mess from time to time

Thing is, I haven't seen that picture yet, where she looks a mess. Or I'm missing something.


Barb - Nov 02, 2009 11:54:28 am PST #16644 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

From what I'm understanding too, ita, is that a lot of the critics are basing their criticisms on the mother/daughter bonding rituals inherent in "fixing hair" prevalent within the African-American community. I think it was Ta-Nehisi Coates who made the point that the Jolie-Pitt kids, by dint of their nomadic global upbringing aren't exactly American, so folks have no business pinning any cultural expectations on those kids.


amych - Nov 02, 2009 11:57:04 am PST #16645 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

With the disclaimer that my black hair knowledge is at the "try to listen and not show your ass" level -- "child looks well taken care of" seems like a reasonable expectation no matter what the culture; whereas "all black girls should be getting hot-combed daily by age 3" seems like, how shall I put this, OMG crazy woman STFU with your issues.


§ ita § - Nov 02, 2009 11:57:11 am PST #16646 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To hell with fixing hair. My mother never fixed my hair. I know plenty of black American girls whose hair got fixed by professionals. That's a big crock of shit.


Amy - Nov 02, 2009 11:58:10 am PST #16647 of 30001
Because books.

What amych said.

And no, P-C, that's not the name. I'll never tell!


-t - Nov 02, 2009 12:01:02 pm PST #16648 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't name stuff, not cars nor electronics, aside from my iPod because it asked me to name it.

Which is why my iPod is named "Tamara's iPod".


Polter-Cow - Nov 02, 2009 12:04:05 pm PST #16649 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My Shuffle is named Smellerbee. My previous Shuffle was named Pipsqueak. I have an iPod that my brother gave me and I've never used, but if I ever get around to using it, it's named The Duke.

My car is named Caprica.

I didn't use to name things but it seemed like everyone else did, so I started.