So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 02, 2009 11:50:50 am PST #16643 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Taking care of black folks' hair is a different thing from white folks, but I'm depressed at what so many people seem to want from a happy and healthy-looking four year old.

Kids tend to look a mess from time to time

Thing is, I haven't seen that picture yet, where she looks a mess. Or I'm missing something.


Barb - Nov 02, 2009 11:54:28 am PST #16644 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

From what I'm understanding too, ita, is that a lot of the critics are basing their criticisms on the mother/daughter bonding rituals inherent in "fixing hair" prevalent within the African-American community. I think it was Ta-Nehisi Coates who made the point that the Jolie-Pitt kids, by dint of their nomadic global upbringing aren't exactly American, so folks have no business pinning any cultural expectations on those kids.


amych - Nov 02, 2009 11:57:04 am PST #16645 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

With the disclaimer that my black hair knowledge is at the "try to listen and not show your ass" level -- "child looks well taken care of" seems like a reasonable expectation no matter what the culture; whereas "all black girls should be getting hot-combed daily by age 3" seems like, how shall I put this, OMG crazy woman STFU with your issues.


§ ita § - Nov 02, 2009 11:57:11 am PST #16646 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To hell with fixing hair. My mother never fixed my hair. I know plenty of black American girls whose hair got fixed by professionals. That's a big crock of shit.


Amy - Nov 02, 2009 11:58:10 am PST #16647 of 30001
Because books.

What amych said.

And no, P-C, that's not the name. I'll never tell!


-t - Nov 02, 2009 12:01:02 pm PST #16648 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't name stuff, not cars nor electronics, aside from my iPod because it asked me to name it.

Which is why my iPod is named "Tamara's iPod".


Polter-Cow - Nov 02, 2009 12:04:05 pm PST #16649 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My Shuffle is named Smellerbee. My previous Shuffle was named Pipsqueak. I have an iPod that my brother gave me and I've never used, but if I ever get around to using it, it's named The Duke.

My car is named Caprica.

I didn't use to name things but it seemed like everyone else did, so I started.


P.M. Marc - Nov 02, 2009 12:05:51 pm PST #16650 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

This laptop is Illyria. My dual-boot netbook has two names: KAZ-2Y5 (XP) and CNK-80Q3 (Win7).

My iPhone is Sophia, so I can send nasty messages to Perkins' iPhone (Chad). This is possibly funny only to us. The iPod I can't find right now (don't know which purse she's in) is Ruby. My First iPod is Diefenbaker.

Possibly, I should not be allowed to name things.


SuziQ - Nov 02, 2009 12:09:53 pm PST #16651 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

This is possibly funny only to us.

I'm giggling.

My old laptop was George. I haven't named the new one yet...must take care of that. The iTouch is TouchSuzi (REAL creative, eh). The Mustang will always be "Mom's car".

The poor cat is named Miss Kitty. At least I did ok with the kids.


Kiba Rika - Nov 02, 2009 12:11:59 pm PST #16652 of 30001
I may have to seize the cat.

Owen and Olivia make up stories like this.

I also made up stories like this. I convinced a preschool teacher that my whole family was moving to Africa. She went on at my mom for a while about how much they would miss us.

Sadly for some, this is not a trait I've outgrown. As recently as three years ago, I told my brother that when they took out my gall bladder, they replaced it with the largest salt water shark tank on the East Coast.

Stories make life more interesting.