Also, the school serving a vegetarian meal to kids is indoctrination. The school serving a meat meal to kids is not. Even though, in either case, it's the school deciding what the kids eat.

Where's your confusion? Real Americans don't need to be indoctrinated to eat meat! It's just the natural order of things! Mom, apple pie, and MEAT (product).

MEAT (product)

Preferably bacon!

Plus the Bible says we have dominion over all the animals. (I've heard that as an argument against vegetarianism.)

Plus the Bible says we have dominion over all the animals. (I've heard that as an argument against vegetarianism.)

I've heard it as an argument for vegetarianism. "Dominion" means we're supposed to protect them, not exploit them. The same passage lists which plants or parts of plants should be eaten by people, and which by animals, and make no mention of people eating animals.

Actually, a former Bush advisor wrote a book called Dominion which was an argument for animal rights and vegetarianism.

Dominion, by Matthew Scully: [link]

Whenever I am hating people, I need to watch PS22 chorus on youtube. Those kids are so lucky to have that teacher. And I say that as someone who can't sing.

CARamel or CAREamel? Or, CARmel, I guess.

I have lazy pronunciation with this one -- CAR-mel.

Ooh! I got cited in the New York Times! (Under "One For My Baby.")

Exxxxxxcellent. t /Mr. Burns

I switch between CAR-ml and CARE-a mel. CAR-ml is the one I was "born" with and CARE a mel the one I picked up later. Of course, my family says "acrost" instead of "across".

I'm mostly CAR-ml, but will say CARE-a mel for the individually wrapped cubes.

To me, Car-ml is the substance, and the cubes are Car-mls or CARE-a mels. So CARE-a mels are made of Car-ml.