I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Oct 05, 2009 10:53:57 am PDT #12307 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Weird headline o' the day:

Police step in to stop Darth Vader 'porn movie'

Sadly, the article is less interesting - the police just raided the wrong place.

The set of a movie starring Darth Vader actor David Prowse was raided by police after reports it was being used to shoot a porn film.

The bungalow location was instead found to house actors filming a dramatic dialogue for the 'action thriller'.

Neighbours had jumped to the wrong conclusion after seeing a camera and lighting equipment being taken into the home.

One film crew member, who did not want to be named, said: 'It was hilarious to see a bunch of policemen enter the bungalow expecting to see a porn film carrying on. When the officers saw two dressed actors talking, they looked quite disappointed.

Edit for bigger quote to make more sense. It was the fault of nosy neighbors!


Hil R. - Oct 05, 2009 10:59:13 am PDT #12308 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

This conservapedia translation is doing odd things with the word "unclean." I have no idea what word was used in the original, but a leper who was unclean in the KJV is sick in this one, and a spirit that was unclean is now evil. I wonder, if you went back to the Greek, if the same word was used for "unclean" in both places. I also am pretty sure that the people doing this "translation" wouldn't really care -- there are plenty of places where words seem to be changed around for no good reason at all.

And, my favorite so far, I've found twice that the people who criticize Jesus, who are called scribes in the KJV, are called "intellectuals" or "intellectual types" in this.


Steph L. - Oct 05, 2009 10:59:26 am PDT #12309 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And "Holy Ghost" just sounds lame....

Well it sounded perfectly fine until a few years ago. Now it inevitably conjures up an image of Eddie Izzard flapping his arms and running around the stage.

That's exactly what I was thinking!


JenP - Oct 05, 2009 11:00:10 am PDT #12310 of 30001

Well, beth, since my last post I have gone to the post office, comic book store, and lunch. Now I have to put another load in the washer and dryer and start putting things away. Oh, and I unloaded and reloaded the dishwasher at some point this morning.


meara - Oct 05, 2009 11:04:20 am PDT #12311 of 30001

I dunno, in some ways the "translation" makes sense to me--it's just a form of modernizing it, like many of the "teen bibles" or whatever are. I guess it depends on how you present it--is it like, "ooh, this one is MORE ACCURATE!" or is it just "Hey, this is going to be more comprehensible to a modern audience"? Cause #1, not so much. #2, sure. The taking out stories, well...I'm no Bible literalist, so, I'm not going to argue with folks over what belongs there and what doesn't, but...


Kathy A - Oct 05, 2009 11:07:27 am PDT #12312 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I followed this link from Glenn Greenwald's Salon column--it's a Daily Kos diary from a young man who decided to come out to his parents and what happened. It got me crying here at work!! (Read the bottom of the diary entry first, and then read upwards--the updates are posted on top of the original entry.)


Lee - Oct 05, 2009 11:08:08 am PDT #12313 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Hive mind question:

Can you think of any trade secret case that has caught your attention in the past five years or so?


Hil R. - Oct 05, 2009 11:11:00 am PDT #12314 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I dunno, in some ways the "translation" makes sense to me--it's just a form of modernizing it, like many of the "teen bibles" or whatever are. I guess it depends on how you present it--is it like, "ooh, this one is MORE ACCURATE!" or is it just "Hey, this is going to be more comprehensible to a modern audience"? Cause #1, not so much. #2, sure. The taking out stories, well...I'm no Bible literalist, so, I'm not going to argue with folks over what belongs there and what doesn't, but...

It's not just modernizing. One of the stated goals is to make it seem less "Socialist." So all the stuff about giving to the poor or about rich people being greedy or selfish is getting changed around, not for accuracy or comprehensibility, but for ideology.


Barb - Oct 05, 2009 11:11:03 am PDT #12315 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

And "Holy Ghost" just sounds lame....

Well it sounded perfectly fine until a few years ago. Now it inevitably conjures up an image of Eddie Izzard flapping his arms and running around the stage.

While "Holy Spirit" conjurs up images of Rowan Atkinson in full Church of England garb, sputtering, "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spigot- Spirit!"


Sue - Oct 05, 2009 11:13:40 am PDT #12316 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Can you think of any trade secret case that has caught your attention in the past five years or so?

Neither are cases, but I was just reading that e coli article in the Times, and it mentioned that meat producers protect the ingredients in their ground beef as a trade secret. I thought that was very interesting, and it makes me think that if I knew, I would never eat ground beef again.

Also, similarly, Becel refuses to disclose the ingredients of it's spread as a trade secret, which makes my nutritionist friend very suspect of it and it's trans-fat free claims.