I heard a clip on NPR of a woman asking someone in the whitehouse(can't remember who) about "Why they didn't prove he was an American" and she just got louder and louder and more and more hysterical. I mean, she truly believes that this country is being taken over by malicious forces.

Sarah Palin?

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Birthers would be funny if they didn't seem to be gaining traction in the mainstream. Among people who'd be furious if anyone dared suggest they needed to prove their citizenship.

Does Chicago count as Real America?

Real America, yes. Real Midwest, no.

Good lord, I'm older than the President.

It's just six months, but damn.

Among people who'd be furious if anyone dared suggest they needed to prove their citizenship.

That's how I utterly silence my conservative relatives: I require they pass the same litmus test they're demanding of Obama before *speaking to me again*.

Total, echoing silence.

I have no patience or tolerance for this, and have been LOUD in public in decrying it. I'll continue to do so, too.

It's revolting.

Birthers would be funny if they didn't seem to be gaining traction in the mainstream.

Haven't even Bill O., the Coulterbeast, and Michelle Malkin said that the birthers are batshit crazy?

Has anyone seen any non-white birthers? I'm wondering if "not really American" is just their way of saying, "not one of us white folks" without getting automatically dubbed racists.

Birthers would be funny if they didn't seem to be gaining traction in the mainstream.

I think the right wing is particularly susceptible to the crazy these days. There is such an anti-media streak that some of them only trust the echo chamber right wing media. I've run into this with relatives. You can't trust any source except FOX shows, because CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, AP, Reuters, BBC, etc... are all liberal. And don't even mention NPR.

I'm wondering if "not really American" is just their way of saying, "not one of us white folks"

It's exactly this.

Sullivan quoting ALex Knapp:

While traditional adherence to quaint philosophic concepts might make it appear that the evidence overwhelmingly favors the conclusion that Barack Obama is a United States citizen, it is clear that this cannot be the case so long as we don’t pay any attention to the idea that there is an objective reality.

Cognitive Realism, the Law of Attraction, and Norse Mythology all provide plausible philosophic justification for ignoring evidence and logic. Accordingly, because Obama’s claim to American citizenship is only supported by evidence and logic, he must not be an American citizen. Thus, Barack Obama is not eligible to be President of the United States.

It’s perfectly logical.

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ION, should I post something really stupid and offensive that Limbaugh said, or would that just needlessly raise people's blood pressure?

ION, should I post something really stupid and offensive that Limbaugh said, or would that just needlessly raise people's blood pressure?

It'll totally spike my blood pressure, but it's what I live for.