Yeah, a lot of how modern life expectancy is higher than it was a couple hundred years ago is attributable to lower infant mortality and childhood disease. I'm not sure how young men dying in wars/accidents/general violence compares.
Zoe: Captain will come up with a plan. Kaylee: That's good. Right? Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans.
'Safe'
Natter 64: Yes, we still need you
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
-t - Jul 28, 2009 9:03:24 am PDT #1022 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
msbelle - Jul 28, 2009 9:07:55 am PDT #1023 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
thanks lisa - I just found a product I think will make keeping or getting my sofa clean a lot easier, so that is something. And I found a store in NY that sell a bunch of this stuff, so I need to get up there one day this week.
Tonight I am bagging yarn and washing summer skirts/dresses. jealous, I know.
Gudanov - Jul 28, 2009 9:08:27 am PDT #1024 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping
I would say potential lifespan has not changed a whole lot, but a lot of obstacles to reaching that potential lifespan have been removed. Vaccinations, antibiotics, more reliable food supply, sanitation, etc...
Calli - Jul 28, 2009 9:12:30 am PDT #1025 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
A speaker at this year's global health council conference said that humanity at large could have over 60 years life expectancy given clean water, sanitation, and reliable, safe light at night (to enable things like cleaning up after sick kids at 3 am without burning the house down).
Allyson - Jul 28, 2009 9:14:30 am PDT #1026 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Someone suggested I go to the date wrecks site for a laugh...and while I'm not a particularly nice person, I found the whole thing to be merciless bullying.
Am I losing me edge? Softening up?
It's just, "here, look at this dork and how icky he is."
Or a mook or whatever. It's just, posting their pictures and everything seems icky.
brenda m - Jul 28, 2009 9:26:06 am PDT #1027 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I know a number of people who think we live a lot longer today than we did a few hundred years ago. But that number really changes if you compare people that made it past 30 then and now.
Yeah, the whole "average life expectancy was 32 so you were middle aged at 13!" thing. You don't even have to go to 30 - if you look at life expectancy for the cohort who make it to 5 the flaw in that thinking becomes obvious.
Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2009 9:30:49 am PDT #1028 of 30001
brillig
Infant mortality rates must have been utterly horrendous, given how many people made it to their 50s and older in the middle ages.
StuntHusband - Jul 28, 2009 9:41:27 am PDT #1029 of 30001
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
It are varmisch outside! Even Morbo is upset.
Calli - Jul 28, 2009 10:02:12 am PDT #1030 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Infant mortality rates were and are a significant factor in life expectancy, but so are other factors. For example, compare the life expectancy of people in Ethiopia and Malawi:
Ethiopia:
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 55/58
Probability of dying under five (per 1 000 live births): 123
Malawi:
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 49/51
Probability of dying under five (per 1 000 live births): 120
Ethiopia has a slightly higher infant mortality rate, but also a higher life expectancy. In this particular case, one of the key factors is HIV:
Ethiopia, Adult HIV rate: ~2.25%
Malawi, Adult HIV rate: ~12.0%
(Figures from the World Health Organization.)
Jesse - Jul 28, 2009 10:12:02 am PDT #1031 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Related to Bill O'Rielly, I hate it when people say that doing something "lowers the risk of death". I am pretty sure my risk of death is 100%
That's my pet peeve too!!
Yeah, a lot of how modern life expectancy is higher than it was a couple hundred years ago is attributable to lower infant mortality and childhood disease.
You know, I hadn't really thought about that. Now I feel kind of dopey.