Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do this? Kaylee: Sure. Yeah. I think so. 'Sides, if I mess up, not like you'll be able to yell at me.

'Bushwhacked'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 28, 2009 9:26:06 am PDT #1027 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I know a number of people who think we live a lot longer today than we did a few hundred years ago. But that number really changes if you compare people that made it past 30 then and now.

Yeah, the whole "average life expectancy was 32 so you were middle aged at 13!" thing. You don't even have to go to 30 - if you look at life expectancy for the cohort who make it to 5 the flaw in that thinking becomes obvious.


Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2009 9:30:49 am PDT #1028 of 30001
brillig

Infant mortality rates must have been utterly horrendous, given how many people made it to their 50s and older in the middle ages.


StuntHusband - Jul 28, 2009 9:41:27 am PDT #1029 of 30001
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

It are varmisch outside! Even Morbo is upset.


Calli - Jul 28, 2009 10:02:12 am PDT #1030 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Infant mortality rates were and are a significant factor in life expectancy, but so are other factors. For example, compare the life expectancy of people in Ethiopia and Malawi:

Ethiopia:
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 55/58
Probability of dying under five (per 1 000 live births): 123

Malawi:
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 49/51
Probability of dying under five (per 1 000 live births): 120

Ethiopia has a slightly higher infant mortality rate, but also a higher life expectancy. In this particular case, one of the key factors is HIV:

Ethiopia, Adult HIV rate: ~2.25%

Malawi, Adult HIV rate: ~12.0%

(Figures from the World Health Organization.)


Jesse - Jul 28, 2009 10:12:02 am PDT #1031 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Related to Bill O'Rielly, I hate it when people say that doing something "lowers the risk of death". I am pretty sure my risk of death is 100%

That's my pet peeve too!!

Yeah, a lot of how modern life expectancy is higher than it was a couple hundred years ago is attributable to lower infant mortality and childhood disease.

You know, I hadn't really thought about that. Now I feel kind of dopey.


Calli - Jul 28, 2009 10:27:05 am PDT #1032 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

California-istas, your state's problems have been solved.

Phew! Now we can go back to worrying about fluoridated water.


msbelle - Jul 28, 2009 10:30:01 am PDT #1033 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I will continue raising my fist and complaining about too many damn people in general.


Toddson - Jul 28, 2009 10:35:16 am PDT #1034 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

msbelle, I was having sympathy itches for you.

Hope things are going as well as possible.


Polter-Cow - Jul 28, 2009 10:37:42 am PDT #1035 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

California-istas, your state's problems have been solved.

Brilliant! Thank you, Captain Optimistic from Naivedonia.


msbelle - Jul 28, 2009 10:39:52 am PDT #1036 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

shockingly enough, I have no itches.