Thanks Tom. Was Snyder in the doghouse? I thought Joss took over, because Snyder's daughter died.

It's all such a mess. The last I'd read (in September [link] [link] ), Warner said Ray Fisher wouldn't cooperate with the investigator, but Fisher said he wanted representation present when he did (which he should have). I know Jason Momoa backed up Fisher about treatment on the set. (https://ew.com/movies/jason-momoa-justice-league-mistreatment/ ).

It seems like Joss has turned into a Buffyverse villain.

I remember though that Jeff Pruitt (old BtVS stunt coordinator) tried cozy up to Fisher, who retweeted him. I hope someone told Fisher that Pruitt isn't necessarily a good guy, just because he doesn't like Joss. He acted like an utter ass on the Bronze. When he had his public shitfit, Pruitt posted that he had a fungus in his toilet that he (Pruitt) had named after SMG. He also posted his bizarre "A Knight's Parable." I think Allyson covered some of this in her book.

The oldest Bronze VIP archives are gone [link] , but I found a copy/paste of Pruitt's "Knight's Parable" here: [link]

Edit: someone archived the web page where Pruitt originally published it. You can find it on the Wayback Machine: [link]

Whatever reason Snyder had for leaving the project, once he was gone, Warner seemed intent on delivering a completely different movie than Snyder’s original vision. They certainly could have just finished shooting Snyder’s script for a lot less money.

Plus, it always was suspect to me that Joss was hired to make a Batgirl movie, and then he just happened to be perfectly placed to take over Justice League on a moment’s notice, and then the original Batgirl project was abandoned.

Also, I had the timing of events a little wrong above. The rumors that Joss was talking to Marvel were in April, and Fisher started talking about Joss in July, and the investigation was in August. The Marvel rumors are still just very vague rumors.

Also, also, AT&T is in the middle of cleaning house at Warner, DC, and HBO. They have been firing lots and lots of people.

From what I've heard (no idea if it was correct or not), Snyder was already on the outs with Warner Bros. over BvS, which underperformed compared to the recent Superman and Batman solo movies (especially given what one might have expected from first appearance of DC Comics' Trinity in one film), and was then shown up by the overperformance and near-unanimous critical acclaim of Patty Jenkins' much more colorful and optimistic Wonder Woman. Then it was looking like Justice League was shaping up to be more of the same grimdark violence-palooza, and Whedon was brought in to Avengers-ize the project with more humor, quippy dialog, and brightly colored action in the hopes doing so would add another billion or so at the box office. The tragic death of Snyder's daughter gave the studio an excuse for his exit that would save face publicly and avoid animosity in the future.

Turns out Justice League underperformed even worse, was also critically panned, and in the meantime all kinds of unpleasant revelations about Joss' personal and professional conduct came to light just as the MeToo movement was making such things problematic for studios. Meanwhile Snyder's fans who thought Batman v. Superman was a cinematic masterpiece have been calling for the Snyder Cut for years, and to his credit Snyder seems to be well-regarded by all the principal actors who've dealt with him.