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Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.

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Tom Scola - Nov 30, 2020 5:18:24 am PST #5826 of 5827
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Whatever reason Snyder had for leaving the project, once he was gone, Warner seemed intent on delivering a completely different movie than Snyder’s original vision. They certainly could have just finished shooting Snyder’s script for a lot less money.

Plus, it always was suspect to me that Joss was hired to make a Batgirl movie, and then he just happened to be perfectly placed to take over Justice League on a moment’s notice, and then the original Batgirl project was abandoned.

Also, I had the timing of events a little wrong above. The rumors that Joss was talking to Marvel were in April, and Fisher started talking about Joss in July, and the investigation was in August. The Marvel rumors are still just very vague rumors.

Also, also, AT&T is in the middle of cleaning house at Warner, DC, and HBO. They have been firing lots and lots of people.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 04, 2021 12:37:13 pm PST #5827 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

From what I've heard (no idea if it was correct or not), Snyder was already on the outs with Warner Bros. over BvS, which underperformed compared to the recent Superman and Batman solo movies (especially given what one might have expected from first appearance of DC Comics' Trinity in one film), and was then shown up by the overperformance and near-unanimous critical acclaim of Patty Jenkins' much more colorful and optimistic Wonder Woman. Then it was looking like Justice League was shaping up to be more of the same grimdark violence-palooza, and Whedon was brought in to Avengers-ize the project with more humor, quippy dialog, and brightly colored action in the hopes doing so would add another billion or so at the box office. The tragic death of Snyder's daughter gave the studio an excuse for his exit that would save face publicly and avoid animosity in the future.

Turns out Justice League underperformed even worse, was also critically panned, and in the meantime all kinds of unpleasant revelations about Joss' personal and professional conduct came to light just as the MeToo movement was making such things problematic for studios. Meanwhile Snyder's fans who thought Batman v. Superman was a cinematic masterpiece have been calling for the Snyder Cut for years, and to his credit Snyder seems to be well-regarded by all the principal actors who've dealt with him.


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