It was both. The bullet hit him in the shoulder before the trees started flying around.
Bester: Mal. Whaddya need two mechanics for? Mal: I really don't.
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Jessica - Apr 01, 2015 6:55:04 pm PDT #5243 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Strix - Apr 01, 2015 6:56:28 pm PDT #5244 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Tiny violin playing for him. Wah wah wah...
Consuela - Apr 01, 2015 8:41:48 pm PDT #5245 of 5827
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Aw, poor Charlie's gonna die again.
There was more going on in this episode, but not a lot of logic anywhere. And why didn't Coulson & May point out that Fury's not dead? Although it did sound like Gonzalez was challenging Fury's decision-making, too. Like Fury's secrets were more to blame for the fall of SHIELD than the Hydra infestation (which predated Fury, but whatever).
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2015 6:08:08 am PDT #5246 of 5827
brillig
Fury doesn't want anyone else to know he's alive. Coulson would not make that call. I'm just amazed at how many people know Phil's alive and how, though that's probably from Bobbi.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 02, 2015 6:14:54 am PDT #5247 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think there are very legitimate issues with Fury greenlighting Project Insight, as Gonzales brought up. It didn't lead to the HYDRA situation, but it's symptomatic of a questionable leadership approach. Setting up a system with carte blanche to track millions of supposed threats and the ability to shell them en masse remotely is begging for an enormous amount of power to fall into the wrong hands once you're no longer in charge. And I'm not sure there are actually any right hands for that sort of capability.
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2015 6:17:29 am PDT #5248 of 5827
brillig
Granted, Insight was flawed, as Steve rightly pointed out. If it took Captain America to point this out to Fury, Fury needs/needed to be paying more attention to the end games of his projects.
Steph L. - Apr 03, 2015 5:44:53 pm PDT #5249 of 5827
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
In the flashback, did anyone notice a vibe between Mack and the guy who was shot (Tim, I think)? I'm not just saying that from an impulse to slash random characters; it felt vibey. Plus Bobbi specifically said to Mack "I'm sorry about [Tim]." Tons of SHIELD agents were killed that day, many of whom Mack and Bobbi knew, but she specifically mentioned him.
It could be nothing, but it kind of jumped out at me.
DebetEsse - Apr 03, 2015 7:33:25 pm PDT #5250 of 5827
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Major slash pairings have been built on far less.
Steph L. - Apr 03, 2015 8:57:13 pm PDT #5251 of 5827
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
It just seemed canonical to me, but I may have been imagining things.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 03, 2015 9:32:37 pm PDT #5252 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I didn't catch a vibe between them, so although the expression of sympathy did seem noteworthy to me, it could just as easily have been for Mack's handler or longtime partner in the field rather than the bedroom.