Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

'Beneath You'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


-t - Jan 12, 2015 12:32:42 pm PST #4832 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I thought women being displaced thing was kind of underplayed, personally. I think you are right in your analogy.


Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2015 12:49:19 pm PST #4833 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think you're right on, too, Sophia.


Dana - Jan 12, 2015 1:02:03 pm PST #4834 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I suspect that "hitting over the head" = mentioning at all.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2015 3:30:23 pm PST #4835 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For what it's worth, I thought it was a bit strong in regards to Peggy and her relationship with the SSR, though appropriate to the period in general. I mean, I doubt guys were snapping their fingers for the lady guarding the door at Project Rebirth to go fetch them a fresh cup of coffee.


Connie Neil - Jan 12, 2015 3:31:44 pm PST #4836 of 5827
brillig

Well, there's "guarding the door" and then there's "let's tuck the pretty secretary/assistant out of the way while the important work gets done." They may not know what she did. They all think she slept with Steve and probably Howard.


Jessica - Jan 12, 2015 4:42:14 pm PST #4837 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I mean, I doubt guys were snapping their fingers for the lady guarding the door at Project Rebirth to go fetch them a fresh cup of coffee.

This sort of thing still happens now, what makes you think it wasn't going on in the 40s?


quester - Jan 12, 2015 5:18:51 pm PST #4838 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I was disappointed. I thought the show would be about Carter and her intrepid band during the war. the post war chauvanism isn't what i thought i was getting.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 13, 2015 5:36:04 am PST #4839 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My point is that the SSR in New York City had more than one woman in a position of responsibility, contributing to their projects capably, just a couple of years before the setting of Agent Carter. It seems beyond the pale to me that every interaction Peggy has with people in that same organization is now tinged with condescension and dismissal of her agency.


Connie Neil - Jan 13, 2015 5:46:09 am PST #4840 of 5827
brillig

But, Matt, there was a war on. Which is a phrase used often to excuse non-standard behavior. A big push after the war was to "get back to normal." The agency that women used was considered something borrowed, and lots of people, men and women, assumed that most women would be happy to give up the "burden" and get back to their proper work. Women going into the factories and military was considered a sad commentary on the hardships of war, not a chance to show what a woman could do. Many, many people breathed a sigh of relief that the old roles could be reassumed. People being people, there were lots of folks who liked the wartime roles, but in general, society did not approve.

In the SSR, there may be people thinking Peggy is being wasted, but on the whole, I see it as a situation where the men have come back from war and are expecting to have the useful jobs for themselves. The women were placeholders, no matter how competent they were.


sj - Jan 14, 2015 4:34:27 pm PST #4841 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I did watch Agent Carter last night, but I was having trouble concentrating so I don't really remember much of it.