I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


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Consuela - Apr 09, 2014 4:57:12 am PDT #3914 of 5827
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Getting mind-controlled by Lorelei was still really stupid, though.

Actually, that works better for me: it might have been on purpose, if he's trying to form an alliance with her. Also might make the sex not rape.


Jessica - Apr 09, 2014 5:38:49 am PDT #3915 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Actually, that works better for me: it might have been on purpose, if he's trying to form an alliance with her. Also might make the sex not rape.

I wish I could believe this, but I don't see how Lorelei would be useful to HYDRA. It's not like she would play any nicer with them than she did with SHIELD.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2014 5:39:38 am PDT #3916 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do they not shoot women in the head because that's an awful way to shoot a woman, or because they suddenly remembered 2 to centre mass, or because it's way easier to come back from?


Dana - Apr 09, 2014 5:45:48 am PDT #3917 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Surely he's brainwashed. That's the vibe I got, at least.

I mean, they made a point of mentioning that Raina was brainwashed. It seems very...pointed.


-t - Apr 09, 2014 5:46:21 am PDT #3918 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm hoping it's your second option, but think it's probably the third.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2014 5:53:57 am PDT #3919 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Bah. That article seems to be strongly hinting that Ward is brainwashed.

Really? I got the complete opposite vibe myself.


Connie Neil - Apr 09, 2014 6:19:52 am PDT #3920 of 5827
brillig

When the zoomed in on Ward's face as Garrett was bloviating, I expected to have a POV switch and see Clairvoyant text scroll across the bottom of Ward's view saying something like "Kill him next."


Theodosia - Apr 09, 2014 6:36:14 am PDT #3921 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I suspect, and will be disappointed, if Ward is merely brainwashed.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2014 6:39:11 am PDT #3922 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Mo and Jed interview! These postmortems are great reads.

Whedon: In our very first conversations with Joss, we were talking about what the show could be, and the challenges and opportunities a S.H.I.E.L.D. show would bring. We were discussing, all sort of on the same page, and there was a moment -- "Oh, there is this one other thing."

Just a small thing.

Neat to hear about all the little hints they've dropped in:

And then in "Seeds," there's a really nice moment where Skye is standing at the wall of valor, and we hear Coulson's voice off-camera saying that the world is full of evil, pain, lies and death -- and the camera pans and lands on Ward when he says "lies" and "evil."


Connie Neil - Apr 09, 2014 6:44:59 am PDT #3923 of 5827
brillig

I often don't get home in time to see entire episodes. Has Hand been established as someone who would tell an agent to kill someone in custody? It seemed odd in someone Coulson was willing to have call him Phil.