Could just be a hoax, though. I fake some headaches, everyone gets used to poor helpless Spike. Then one day, no warning, I snap a spine, bend a head back, drain 'em dry. Brilliant.

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sj - Apr 08, 2014 6:25:22 pm PDT #3893 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

He can still die tragically even if he is brainwashed, right?


beekaytee - Apr 08, 2014 6:32:27 pm PDT #3894 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

Not liking the actual twists, or that they're doing twists at all?

The actual twists.

I think the speculation about brainwashing is probable and...dare I say it...predictable and boring.

I'm not interested in Ward being a not!bad guy either through brainwashing or some ultra secret plan with Coulson...which will later come out as having been the conversation between the two of them that we did not hear so that Ward can infiltrate even farther into Hydra to figure out who the Level 9 & 10s are, which he can only do with Garrett's help and the reason we didn't see Hand's face is because Ward used a nightnight gun with ketchup pellets...blah, blah, blah.


chrismg - Apr 08, 2014 6:35:18 pm PDT #3895 of 5827
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Hmmmm.

So the role of "older leading-man type romantically interested in a female co-lead" is initially given to a generic white guy.....

- then he suddenly turns evil and his place is taken by a black character?

I could get behind this.


Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 6:36:00 pm PDT #3896 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

He can still die tragically even if he is brainwashed, right?

There's always hope.

I actually liked Ward a lot better in this episode as it was obvious there was something going on even before he started shooting up SHIELD agents.

I'm not interested in Ward being a not!bad guy either through brainwashing or some ultra secret plan with Coulson...which will later come out as having been the conversation between the two of them that we did not hear so that Ward can infiltrate even farther into Hydra to figure out who the Level 9 & 10s are, which he can only do with Garrett's help and the reason we didn't see Hand's face is because Ward used a nightnight gun with ketchup pellets...blah, blah, blah.

Ok, yes, if this turns out to be some secret plan from Coulson, then I agree it's lame.


Connie Neil - Apr 08, 2014 6:42:00 pm PDT #3897 of 5827
brillig

I missed a lot of the ep. Did Phil find out about Fury?


Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 6:57:51 pm PDT #3898 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yes, May called her hotline to Fury and someone else answered and said Fury was dead, which she relayed to Coulson.


Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 7:09:30 pm PDT #3899 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Though I will say in "Yes Men" it looked to me like Ward tried to shoot May after Lorelei was collared and only "came to his senses" once he realized the gun was empty. At the time I just chalked it up to the way the episode was edited, but in light of tonight I wonder.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 08, 2014 7:25:39 pm PDT #3900 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm a bit pissed about Garret ending up being the Clairvoyant as a fan of Elektra!Assassin. He's supposed to end up being President Wind goddamit!!!!


-t - Apr 08, 2014 7:27:02 pm PDT #3901 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The weird look he had at the end is what made me think brainwashing.

Oh, I thought that was just, like, his true self that is all into the Hydra scene and evil.

I always thought it was weird that an amazing spy would have terrible people skills. If he was secretly a master manipulator all along I'll be happy.

SO GLAD I WATCHED THE MOVIE FIRST. Jeesh.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 08, 2014 7:43:04 pm PDT #3902 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I haven't seen the Captain America movie, but want to be spoiled. Is Nick Fury dead, and is it REALLY dead or possibly Coulson dead?