The weird look he had at the end is what made me think brainwashing.
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sj - Apr 08, 2014 6:02:44 pm PDT #3888 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
beekaytee - Apr 08, 2014 6:03:29 pm PDT #3889 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant
I'm not liking the twisty-turny and am fairly certain we aren't done with it yet.
Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 6:17:41 pm PDT #3890 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Not liking the actual twists, or that they're doing twists at all?
Connie Neil - Apr 08, 2014 6:17:56 pm PDT #3891 of 5827
brillig
The storytelling at the end certainly felt like brainwashing. I wonder what Ward and Phil were talking about there at the end--mere comfort at a betrayal or something more? Though Phil wouldn't authorize shooting Hand. Heh, Hand, with the tight shot on her hand.
Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 6:23:40 pm PDT #3892 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I thought that Coulson was explaining to Ward that Garret was the Clairvoyant, since he and Skye were busy blowing up the SHIELD computer systems when Garret was revealed.
And yeah, the more I think about the imagery, it's seeming more and more like Ward is brain-washed.
Damn it.
sj - Apr 08, 2014 6:25:22 pm PDT #3893 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
He can still die tragically even if he is brainwashed, right?
beekaytee - Apr 08, 2014 6:32:27 pm PDT #3894 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant
Not liking the actual twists, or that they're doing twists at all?
The actual twists.
I think the speculation about brainwashing is probable and...dare I say it...predictable and boring.
I'm not interested in Ward being a not!bad guy either through brainwashing or some ultra secret plan with Coulson...which will later come out as having been the conversation between the two of them that we did not hear so that Ward can infiltrate even farther into Hydra to figure out who the Level 9 & 10s are, which he can only do with Garrett's help and the reason we didn't see Hand's face is because Ward used a nightnight gun with ketchup pellets...blah, blah, blah.
chrismg - Apr 08, 2014 6:35:18 pm PDT #3895 of 5827
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Hmmmm.
So the role of "older leading-man type romantically interested in a female co-lead" is initially given to a generic white guy.....
- then he suddenly turns evil and his place is taken by a black character?
I could get behind this.
Kalshane - Apr 08, 2014 6:36:00 pm PDT #3896 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
He can still die tragically even if he is brainwashed, right?
There's always hope.
I actually liked Ward a lot better in this episode as it was obvious there was something going on even before he started shooting up SHIELD agents.
I'm not interested in Ward being a not!bad guy either through brainwashing or some ultra secret plan with Coulson...which will later come out as having been the conversation between the two of them that we did not hear so that Ward can infiltrate even farther into Hydra to figure out who the Level 9 & 10s are, which he can only do with Garrett's help and the reason we didn't see Hand's face is because Ward used a nightnight gun with ketchup pellets...blah, blah, blah.
Ok, yes, if this turns out to be some secret plan from Coulson, then I agree it's lame.
Connie Neil - Apr 08, 2014 6:42:00 pm PDT #3897 of 5827
brillig
I missed a lot of the ep. Did Phil find out about Fury?