Zoe: Jayne. This is something the Captain has to do for himself. Mal: No! No, it's not!

'War Stories'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Connie Neil - Mar 07, 2014 6:39:47 pm PST #3751 of 5827
brillig

That would certainly circumvent all the relief that blowing up the place gave them.


le nubian - Mar 07, 2014 6:42:12 pm PST #3752 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Problem: I do not like Bill Paxton and want all of his characters to DIAF. I was hoping he would be killed quickly.


billytea - Mar 07, 2014 8:51:21 pm PST #3753 of 5827
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I KNEW it!

quester is the Clairvoyant!


quester - Mar 09, 2014 12:30:48 pm PDT #3754 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I knew you were going to say that, bt!


Zenkitty - Mar 10, 2014 4:37:55 pm PDT #3755 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I just watched the TAHITI episode of SHIELD. I spent half of it yelling, "What are you all doing?! You've killed two SHIELD security guards and blown up a top-secret SHIELD facility, all in the process of disobeying direct orders! You are all going to be court-martialed and thrown in jail! Why are you all acting like everything is just fine now?!" I don't see how they can just go on about their business now as if none of this mattered. I'm willing to handwave a lot of unbelievable stuff for a good story, and I'm fine with nonspecific aliens with super-healing blood kept in suspended animation, but this is ridiculous.

And the next episode brings Lorelei. I've never read a comic with Lorelei in it, so I have no previous knowledge of her, but she looks like the most cliched female character possible. Boring.

I was expecting Coulson to find another Coulson in the tank. I thought the alien was a Chitauri, just because this show follows on the movie they appeared in. Would anyone would hadn't seen the movie have any idea what that alien was? Beyond just the shock of Fuck It's An Alien. Why would anyone who hadn't seen the movie even be watching this show? I was properly horrified by the first Coulson reveal (poor Phil!), but this one seemed anticlimactic. I'm surprised the possibility of aliens being involved with his miraculous recovery never occurred to him. Or that it shocked him so much he nearly went catatonic.

If Garrett were the Clairvoyant, why would he let the mountain with all the secrets he wanted get blown up? Surely he could have divined a way to keep that from turning into an exploding disaster if he were the Clairvoyant.

Were we supposed to lose sympathy for the security guards and not care that the "good" guys killed them, because they refused to let them in to save Skye? Oh, they're mean and evil because they won't respond to a medical emergency! That's stupid. We have no reason to think those guys weren't just innocent people doing their jobs, and I have a real problem with our "heroes" killing them and never giving their deaths a second thought.

I know I'll keep watching to see what they do with it, but I don't much care anymore.


Steph L. - Mar 10, 2014 4:43:53 pm PDT #3756 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You've killed two SHIELD security guards and blown up a top-secret SHIELD facility, all in the process of disobeying direct orders! You are all going to be court-martialed and thrown in jail! Why are you all acting like everything is just fine now?!" I don't see how they can just go on about their business now as if none of this mattered.

It wasn't an official SHIELD facility, was it? It was some off-the-books facility without the SHIELD name officially attached, presumably so they could have plausible deniability.

But I agree with you that the team was really damn blase about killing 2 guys, especially when they have Fitz's magic knockout-but-don't-kill gun.

I was expecting Coulson to find another Coulson in the tank.

Me, too. At first I thought the thing in the tank was original!Coulson. (Or, I suppose, half of original!Coulson.)

Surely he could have divined a way to keep that from turning into an exploding disaster if he were the Clairvoyant.

I think the theory isn't that he's literally clairvoyant; it's that his SHIELD clearance is so high that he knows everything the "Clairvoyant" knew...except how Coulson was resurrected. Garrett couldn't find that out with his SHIELD clearance since it was apparently done in that non-SHIELD off-the-books facility.


Ginger - Mar 10, 2014 4:48:51 pm PDT #3757 of 5827
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

One of the other things that bothered me was that there were only two guards. They guard 24/7? They commute to the mountain?


Zenkitty - Mar 10, 2014 4:58:17 pm PDT #3758 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

It wasn't an official SHIELD facility, was it? It was some off-the-books facility without the SHIELD name officially attached, presumably so they could have plausible deniability.

But they found it by getting into the official SHIELD archive of Everything SHIELD Does. It can't be off-the-books if it is literally IN the book.

especially when they have Fitz's magic knockout-but-don't-kill gun.

Exactly! Where the hell was that thing?

I think the theory isn't that he's literally clairvoyant; it's that his SHIELD clearance is so high that he knows everything the "Clairvoyant" knew...except how Coulson was resurrected.

Okay...except hasn't Big C been shown to know things that SHIELD clearance wouldn't even have been involved in? I can't remember, I wasn't paying that much attention. But it does answer the question of why Big C couldn't see that one thing.

Garrett couldn't find that out with his SHIELD clearance since it was apparently done in that non-SHIELD off-the-books facility.

What about Doctor Book? Coulson found him; surely Big C would have at least the same resources as Coulson. He could have gotten the doctor and extracted all the information he wanted out of him; he didn't have to rely on politely asking.

I dunno. The mystery of Who Is The Clairvoyant hasn't grabbed me.


sj - Mar 10, 2014 5:07:28 pm PDT #3759 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm predicting that the Clairvoyant is one of Skye's parents.


Connie Neil - Mar 10, 2014 5:08:20 pm PDT #3760 of 5827
brillig

I'm predicting that the Clairvoyant is one of Skye's parents.

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