Yeah, but I do think we are more arc-driven than the general public. I'm guessing ABC is a little gunshy on arcs given the lack of success recently with them on network (as opposed to cable) television.

Not in a straight procedural, there doesn't.

Yeah, what Jessica said. I don't think it's out of line for us to expect more from Mutant Enemy than a straight procedural.

I'm mildly grateful we're finally finding an arc.

I'm very grateful Akela Amador survived the episode, and I'm hoping that means we'll see her again. And I'm absolutely positive she saw something in Coulson with her x-ray vision that she didn't expect.

But dear sweet FSM, these characters are boring me. Mutant Enemy is better than this. They've already had way more time than Doctor Horrible, and yet we have very little character insight and delineation.

The only one I really like is Melinda May, because Coulson is just... I dunno. Not working that well for me. I like the actor, but the character seems off (although maybe that's the point).

I don't like the dialogue being predictable, like May's line about the solitude in the cockpit. Where's the snappy dialogue that advances the plot and reveals character? Where's the quick turns from humor to tragedy? It feels labored and slow: Whedon on a 3rd-generation videotape.

because Coulson is just... I dunno. Not working that well for me. I like the actor, but the character seems off (although maybe that's the point).

Right????

Coulsen isn't quite Coulsen and I hope there's a reason because I frankly adored him in the movies and adore the goofy actor who portrays him. But Coulsen isn't quite Coulsen right now.

I don't think it's out of line for us to expect more from Mutant Enemy than a straight procedural.

They're not the 800lb gorilla in the room. I'm sure the addition of Marvel to the pressure does not serve the idea of the arc. I wouldn't expect big narrative risks to be taken here. And arcs? Narrative risks. They should just tidy up their procedural-with-interesting-people-and-a-couple-dark-secrets angle and run with it.

I can see people's points, but I'm enjoying the show and characters more and more each week.

So, did Amador use her X-ray vision on Coulson? The way she asked Melinda May "What did they DO to him?" (or was it "What HAPPENED to him?") makes me think yes, she literally *saw* something physical, rather than just a change in demeanor.

Oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan.

See, I didn't even catch the idea of Amador using her x-ray vision eyes to literally see that something was different about Coulson, I just thought she knew because he was so different from how he had been when he was her SO. That's why I need to come here and read the thoughts of folks who are a lot smarter than me.

I liked this episode most out of all the ones so far. It zipped right along; I enjoyed Amador a lot and would like to see her on the show again; it introduced a mystery villain who may or may not be the same mystery villain as the ones from the first episode (and for all we know ones in bed with Pretty Boy Villain from the last episode). I felt the Skye/Lone Wolf interactions seemed much less forced and more believable. I agree that there is no bigger "So what?" as of yet, but I'm OK with this show just being good TV and not great TV. It's an amusing way to spend 8:00 pm on a Tuesday.

They're not the 800lb gorilla in the room.

I'm sure you're right, but I don't see why that means we get such mediocre writing from a team whose writing was what set them apart.

I thought the episode moved pretty well, and felt less draggy than previous ones -- though it's not up to ME standard by far.

Best part of the episode was Fitz waving his arms to prove that they were seeing what Amador saw. And then Skye totally screwing up the getaway.

I'm sure you're right, but I don't see why that means we get such mediocre writing from a team whose writing was what set them apart.

Right?? I don't think I'd be as disappointed as I am if my standards for Mutant Enemy weren't so high. The show is fine. But I'd love for it to be great.

If this is a straight procedural, it needs better cases-of-the-week. If this is a character driven long-form story show, it needs better characters and better mythos. Right now I don't think it's doing either one well.

I think that's fair, I just disagreed with your original blanket statement about characters.

And it's Jed and Maurissa running the show, right? I don't think they are quite a known quantity yet.