Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here.

'Sleeper'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2013 6:57:16 am PDT #3076 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I agree with both Matt and ita !. I like it as a metaphor for the 99%, but as itself? Yeah, I don't really see how the existence of gods and monsters raises the bar for ordinary humans in any way that Tony Stark didn't already. Stark is totally human and embodies what "the everyman" wants to be and almost no one can be: rich, powerful, and popular. (Honestly, no one gives a shit about smart, unless smart makes you rich.) At first I didn't even realize Mike P. was talking about gods and monsters; I thought he was literally talking about the 1%, as evidenced by his rage outburst at his boss.

I can see people freaking out over the gods and monsters. I can see people envying them. I just can't see the average person actually comparing themselves in any meaningful way with them. We admire them, dress up as them, take them as role models for certain qualities we want, but we don't decide we're shit and our lives are meaningless because we can't fly or turn into a rampaging giant.


Steph L. - Sep 26, 2013 7:02:25 am PDT #3077 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

At first I didn't even realize Mike P. was talking about gods and monsters; I thought he was literally talking about the 1%, as evidenced by his rage outburst at his boss.

Me, too.


Connie Neil - Sep 26, 2013 7:04:30 am PDT #3078 of 5827
brillig

I saw where he was coming from. Mike was struggling just to be a man providing for his family, and now there are these other people out there to show him another level he wasn't going to be able to achieve, people his son admired. He'd been actively trying to match superpowered heroes, and he was failing at that too. Last straw time.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2013 7:07:12 am PDT #3079 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He'd been actively trying to match superpowered heroes, and he was failing at that too. Last straw time.

Okay, good point, that.


Jessica - Sep 26, 2013 7:15:22 am PDT #3080 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

At first I didn't even realize Mike P. was talking about gods and monsters; I thought he was literally talking about the 1%, as evidenced by his rage outburst at his boss.

I think the gods & monsters were the last straw. One more bar set impossibly high.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2013 7:35:14 am PDT #3081 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If the supers are a metaphor for the 1%, how different should the relevant speeches be?


chrismg - Sep 26, 2013 12:00:46 pm PDT #3082 of 5827
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

I was thinking about how the pilot gave us another guy whose super-powers gave him rage issues, and I realized we also have:

-A crack female agent with issues with her past

-a crack male agent who's shown to have an affinity for ranged weapons and high places

-a tech genius

-A leader who was apparently dead for a while and is now alive.

It doesn't quite match up perfectly, even if you stretch it to cover Skye as "Untrustworthy outsider who triggers the first mission together" but it's kind of cute.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2013 12:48:31 pm PDT #3083 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think we have a crack male agent who shot a gun from above. Affinity for high places is a bit strong for "best angle was the mezzanine."

Three tech geniuses muddies the waters a little bit too.


Connie Neil - Sep 26, 2013 12:55:31 pm PDT #3084 of 5827
brillig

re: the tech geniuses--I wish we'd be able to get a guest shot of Stark strolling in to accept adulation and competitiveness from the Science Babies and to plant bugs all over the place--which Coulson will stroll along after removing.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 27, 2013 9:06:03 am PDT #3085 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

when did folks hear Skye call Mike "Gunn"?