OK, question. Did any of you get the feeling Agent Ward was supposed to be The Main Character? Because I've seen quite a few reactions around the Web that say roughly, "I like some of it, but the male lead is another Bland White Guy." And I really don't see that he was presented like that.
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chrismg - Sep 25, 2013 9:27:20 am PDT #3046 of 5827
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Connie Neil - Sep 25, 2013 9:40:18 am PDT #3047 of 5827
brillig
Yes, I think Ward is supposed to be the main character. I think Phil is the hook to bring in the Avengers fans and he'll be moved more into desk/control room work and Ward will be the field/interactor with guest stars person.
smonster - Sep 25, 2013 9:42:58 am PDT #3048 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
One thing I did like quite a bit in that scene - Skye in that moment has no idea that Ward has only had level 7 clearance for about half an hour. Coulson knows she's already hacked them, so he also knows Ward can't really give her any more information than she could find out on her own.
Ooo, excellent point, Jessica.
§ ita § - Sep 25, 2013 9:46:23 am PDT #3049 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Looking at the show's about page, I'd say he is supposed to be the lead if Gregg is scaled back. He's definitely second to Coulson in rating (though Skye has an "and starring" character mention.
Team-wise, I'd be surprised if he was Buffy and think he might not even be Mal.
Connie Neil - Sep 25, 2013 9:53:01 am PDT #3050 of 5827
brillig
I bet budget-wise they'd like to have Ward as lead and Coulson as "and starring". If I'm correct in assuming "and starring" doesn't get paid as much as the first-named.
§ ita § - Sep 25, 2013 10:11:27 am PDT #3051 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If I'm correct in assuming "and starring" doesn't get paid as much as the first-named.
Some people get that because they're bigger and are getting paid more, some people get it in lieu of more money. You'd have to know the contract.
Una - Sep 25, 2013 10:39:28 am PDT #3052 of 5827
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.
Scaling Gregg back would make me sadface.
Also, joining Jessica in the eyerolling.
Tom Scola - Sep 25, 2013 11:17:37 am PDT #3053 of 5827
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§ ita § - Sep 25, 2013 11:24:17 am PDT #3054 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Should the slug or thread description be changed (temp or perm) to help people locate the discussion? Or should be consider the question up for asking anywhere? (How useful would this suggestion have been a week ago?)
Zenkitty - Sep 25, 2013 11:26:19 am PDT #3055 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I didn't think of Ward as the lead, I was paying more attention to Coulson. Though in retrospect, I can see that was probably the intent. The actor is not charismatic enough, and the character not interesting enough, to carry the show.
I really hope the show does not turn into another Bland White Guy and Cute White Girl Save the World From Monsters (with help from their sidekicks, Exotic KickAss Beauty and Two Babbling Geeks). I'm in it for Coulson, at this point; none of the other characters grabbed my interest.