Hmm. That makes me think it's better suited for Boxed Set than here, then.

I'd much prefer to discuss it here. It'll get lost in Box Set and this thread is sitting here specifically to deal with Joss projects. So even if he's not writing every episode I think this comes under that purview.

Can we quietly change the thread title to Whedonverse and make everyone who wasn't paying attention think they've shifted to a slightly alternate reality? Because it's (even) easier to defend as a Whedon project than a Joss project.

Does this mean that if Tim's brother starts writing we discuss his shows in Minearverse?

If Joss isn't working on the show, I don't know why it counts. "Down as executive producer" has nil consistent meaning.

David, why would it get lost in Boxed Set? Because no one wants to talk about it?

Then my whole point is moot.

I don't know, if he's the driving force behind creating the show, I'd say it's a Joss show whether he is writing or directing episodes regularly. I'm not sure if that premise is true, though.

"Down as executive producer" has nil consistent meaning.

You're right about that, except I think we can rule out the possibility that Joss would be XP because he co-funded its production. I think it's more likely to be: (1) co-writes the pilot; (2) helps develop the overarching themes/storylines of the show; (3) helps develop the characters; (4) once in a while steps back in to advise on/polish a script or direct an episode; (4) sits in on the writers' room when the season arc is being broken. That's the sort of thing I see him doing.

He's going to be involved at a high level but not showrunner, is my take. I think that's sufficient to keep it here in Jossverse. With his many projects, I don't think we're going to see him as showrunner on anything anytime soon, frankly: he's too in demand to devote all his time to one project now.

(1) co-writes the pilot; (2) helps develop the overarching themes/storylines of the show; (3) helps develop the characters; (4) once in a while steps back in to advise on/polish a script or direct an episode; (4) sits in on the writers' room when the season arc is being broken. That's the sort of thing I see him doing.

It boils down to us having no idea what he's doing yet past 1. That could literally be it, or he could do all of the above and more.

I've got no dog in this race. The articles I had read didn't make it seem like he was working much on the show past the pilot, and it's not even his universe, so it seemed lightly related to me.

Now, if this were the Jedverse...

Will it have the Grr Argh monster?

Like how Buffy had the Sandollar?

I suppose so.

It boils down to us having no idea what he's doing yet past 1.

Well, except he came up with the concept too. I think the bible is going to come from Joss.