Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


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§ ita § - Oct 24, 2009 6:17:57 am PDT #2242 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder if her name was still Priya. It would match Nolan's fantasy, but tip his hand to the Dollhouse.

I'm happy they did this story. I think they did a good job of not having our people complicit in the horror even if Adele did bend in the end. Before it looked like they might have known all along.

I also liked the instory acknowledgment of Topher's amorality. I really didn't like him at the start, and although I still feel justified in that, I like his arc, especially how it peaked this episode.

Boyd is a badass. I know this show is a gift to Eliza, but I would definitely miss her the least if she left. There's just not enough Boyd. And if Tim could write Ballard every week...


Glamcookie - Oct 24, 2009 8:27:03 am PDT #2243 of 5827
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

That was a really good ep. I'm not understanding, though, how it's okay that Sierra and Victor remember each other. They seem to be breaking their internal rules on how the Dollhouse works. I do love those two together, though.

Still hate Topher.


tiggy - Oct 24, 2009 8:34:04 am PDT #2244 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I didn't expect Topher to imprint Priya the way he did.

based on his reaction when Adele told him he had to do it, i was expecting him to imprint her with some assasination/ninja skills so she could take care of herself. wasn't expecting him to put her original personality back.

I loved Topher from the start, grew to love Victor and adore him with every fiber of my being

this is me.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2009 8:38:22 am PDT #2245 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's Victor I loved from the git go. His doll state is so open and childlike, and all his characters are so well-polished and distinct. I'm still not drawn to Sierra, but I think she did the story well.


Juliebird - Oct 24, 2009 8:43:22 am PDT #2246 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm not understanding, though, how it's okay that Sierra and Victor remember each other. They seem to be breaking their internal rules on how the Dollhouse works.

Back in Needs, not!Victor is telling not!Sierra something along the lines of him remembering knowing her as Sierra. That he was still there, trapped inside some corner of his mind/body/Victor, unable to do anything or express how he felt. I don't know if Show is remembering that exchange, though.


Jon B. - Oct 24, 2009 10:45:08 am PDT #2247 of 5827
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

They seem to be breaking their internal rules on how the Dollhouse works.

I'm not certain what Glam meant by internal rules, but what I don't get is why the people who run the Dollhouse are allowing it. Surely, non-dolls are seeing them holding hands, etc.


erin_obscure - Oct 24, 2009 10:53:01 am PDT #2248 of 5827
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

not to mention sleeping in the same pod! scandalous! do you think all the female dolls have iuds?


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2009 10:54:00 am PDT #2249 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

do you think all the female dolls have iuds?

They routinely have sex on missions so I'd assume that contraception was standard. I wonder what they do about STDs.


erin_obscure - Oct 24, 2009 10:56:58 am PDT #2250 of 5827
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

new ethical question for future episode: if a doll contracts herpes (or any other STD that cannot be "cured" and can be transmitted to clients) are they retired, or does Adelle keep sending them out knowing about potential infection? (and would anyone really care if a dollhouse client paid millions to contract an STD?)


Vortex - Oct 24, 2009 2:26:50 pm PDT #2251 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

They routinely have sex on missions so I'd assume that contraception was standard. I wonder what they do about STDs.

The dolls have a full medical examination after every encounter, probably includes STD tests. The clients probably have to provide medical info, too.