Inara: Who's winning? Simon: I can't tell. They don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.

'Bushwhacked'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 23, 2009 7:36:41 pm PDT #2230 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, I don't they explained very well why Sierra had to return. Why couldn't they let Priya go?

It would pretty much ruin the story that they were telling to Adelle et al, and if she turned up any of memfault-on-the-company-Keith-Carradine-was-saying's radar on her own, all their covers' would be blown. Plus, I think Priya didn't want to remember.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 23, 2009 7:38:16 pm PDT #2231 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, damn, this is finally the show I was hoping for. Oh well - hopefully the rest will be on DVD eventually, even if Fox reneges on airing them.


Kevin - Oct 23, 2009 8:21:23 pm PDT #2232 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The DVD is already on the sched for this season.

How amazing is Dichen in this episode? And Fran? And Olivia?


Frankenbuddha - Oct 23, 2009 8:26:09 pm PDT #2233 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, it does make me wonder. Does Eliza know it's not her show anymore?


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2009 8:53:27 pm PDT #2234 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Priya was finally broken in a way the Dollhouse could help with.

I gotta plug my man Enver. I hope he goes on to great things when this is done. I loved his art dealer, and I always like his blank slate. I thought it was great. Eliza can root around and put things in motion, that's fine. But I prefer emotional payoffs from Tahmoh, Harry, Amy, or Enver. They do those better.


Vortex - Oct 23, 2009 8:53:47 pm PDT #2235 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I missed a bit where it was decided that the solution was to take Priya back to the Dollhouse, and that she agreed to this, rather than just set her free. Or did I? I mean, I was getting all antsy that omg Dichen was about to be gone and how could there be awesome Sierra/Victor stories if she was?! Was it her guilt over murdering VV?

I think that she probably ended up back at the Dollhouse due to shock and "hey, these people just helped me cover up that I killed this guy, I should do what they tell me". the idea now is that she was innocent before, but now she's guilty of something that the Dollhouse can hold over her.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 23, 2009 9:01:03 pm PDT #2236 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I gotta plug my man Enver. I hope he goes on to great things when this is done. I loved his art dealer, and I always like his blank slate.

Damn - I almost (almost? Hah! who am I kidding) wish they'd gotten him as the fill-in on Leverage instead of Jeri Ryan.


Kevin - Oct 23, 2009 9:01:33 pm PDT #2237 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Here's a shot of what Echo is writing on her Dollbed: [link]


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2009 9:04:53 pm PDT #2238 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I almost (almost? Hah! who am I kidding) wish they'd gotten him as the fill-in on Leverage instead of Jeri Ryan.

I'd be happy with the team that boy heavy, and he'd make a marvellous long conman.


Shir - Oct 24, 2009 3:26:01 am PDT #2239 of 5827
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Excellent, excellent, excellent episode. [I'm reading this thread since it was opened, but after watching this episode, and getting back to university, I decided to skip the 657 posts left to this point. Not that I have anything interesting to share, but I just had to share the wowness. Mostly because there were several episodes I thought were good, and then, after reading the posts here, I realized some of the problems in them].

It wasn't a smart ep, for me, but it gave me the emotional comfort zone I needed to have a healthy relationship with a Whedon/Minear TV show - that is, breaking my heart, twisting my mind and making me open my eyes with amazement every other scene, experience it in real time, and do so in a believable way. Now, if I could only have episodes with both smartness and emotional abuse from the writers/producers smeared upon them, I would be a very happy Dollhouse watcher.

I didn't expect Topher to imprint Priya the way he did. In fact, I was surprised he did anything at all. But I hardly think it was his first moral dilemma in the Dollhouse - otherwise, I don't think he would have done anything, just stand there, in awe of how suckish life can be. Plus, hello, the Whiskey story?

As I mentioned, I'm a uni-girl. This year I'm taking an amazing class with the pretty amazing (so far) Dr. Dena Freeman, titled Society, Happiness and Well being (from the description: "in this course we will look at the relationship between happiness and well-being and the type of society that we live in. We will question what is a ‘good society’ and what do we really mean by ‘well-being’. We will explore the burgeoning new ‘Science of Happiness’, with its contributions from sociology, psychology, economics and neuroscience and consider how insights from anthropology might deepen and enrich our understandings of happiness. Throughout the course we will engage with questions regarding the shared humanity of all people, and the yet the diversity of cultural interpretation and experience." - and that's not even the cool part about it (if anyone wants to read the syllabus, I'd happily send it.)) Anyway, this ep made me think how to analyze the concept of happiness in the Dollhouse, and right now I'd really like to bring this show into question in one of the classes (hey, maybe I'll even be allowed to write the final paper about it. Maybe.)

Oh, and since this is my first Dollhouse post here, the standards: I loved Topher from the start, grew to love Victor and adore him with every fiber of my being, think someone should get the act of Echo up together (it's really hard to follow her plot line. I know generally what she does, but have no particular idea (or empathy, more likely) why she's doing what she's doing. She's a mystery, and the trouble is she doesn't interest me very much to follow her.) Oh, and Whiskey and Alpah owned the screen when they were on it.