You know, I've saved lives. Dozens. Maybe hundreds. I reattached a girl's leg. Her whole leg. She named her hamster after me. I got a hamster. He drops a box of money, he gets a town.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2009 1:24:14 pm PDT #2091 of 5827
What is even happening?

Good luck, Kevin. This isn't my show, so I don't have a stake in it, but I always feel for fans (and the crew) when a show is teetering. I do get fatigue on behalf of the troops, every time someone tries to rally them/us, though.


Laga - Oct 05, 2009 4:43:29 pm PDT #2092 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I doubt the effectiveness of a fan campaign. Ssorry, Kevin. I know how much it hurts when a show you love gets cancelled but I think I'd be happy if Dollhouse went off the air because I'd like to see Joss do something else now.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2009 9:59:03 pm PDT #2093 of 5827
What is even happening?

Right? Because where's the emotional resonance?


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2009 10:05:52 pm PDT #2094 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess I'd rather see Joss do what makes him happy than what makes me happy, so if this is where he finds his resonance, so be it. I don't feel any urge to help him. I don't know what it would take to get me to raise another finger--just too disillusioned with the whole deal.


Allyson - Oct 06, 2009 8:58:43 am PDT #2095 of 5827
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think, if one is contemplating a campaign, the first question should be, "Does anyone working on this show want it to continue?"

If the answer is yes, I would ask myself, "Are they bullshitting me?"

At which point I'd find a new hobby.


JZ - Oct 06, 2009 10:06:50 am PDT #2096 of 5827
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I got myself good and burnt out on save-our-show efforts early, back in '94 with My So-Called Life (ah, those weird days of practically no internet, when you had to try to save a show by surreptitiously xeroxing flyers at work [with the actual phone numbers and physical addresses of all the people to contact] and then spend a whole weekend running around posting them on every coffee house bulletin board in the city. Good times, good times!).

I'm just weirdly sad at how not-surprised I am. Unlike a lot of Buffistas, I really found last Friday's episode emotionally engaging and dark and messy and I loved Echo's affirmation at the end that she wants to hold onto the pain all her other selves are made to feel, doesn't want their experiences erased even if it's a sorrowful burden, that even a sorrowful burden is infinitely preferable to perfect blankness. Loved it, and have been wanting to rewatch that last scene, and I swear that the instant the credits rolled my very first thought was, Well, that was really thoughtful and interesting and the whole show is now headed someplace complex and rich. I bet it gets canceled in two weeks.


Laga - Oct 06, 2009 10:24:32 am PDT #2097 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I don't think a show can succeed without advertising and I haven't seen any for Dollhouse this fall.


erikaj - Oct 06, 2009 10:35:08 am PDT #2098 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!

I have been part of a successful show campaign, but I'm not sure if it counts as it was to HBO. But I got to call NY and use my Educated White Girl Voice...good times. Alas, I can't recommend my letter as a template, either, because I think I just wrote "My dog died and we lost the election and may I please, please, have my show back?" Begging-ass Bitch might work better for premium subscribers. I think I made up some bullshit Netflix rental statistics too, about how I had to wait weeks and weeks for The Wire season 2(who says you can't learn from TV? I learned to juke the stats. And to put bullet points in my letter...network executives, like commanders, like dots.)


Kristen - Oct 06, 2009 11:17:46 am PDT #2099 of 5827

I don't think a show can succeed without advertising and I haven't seen any for Dollhouse this fall.

See, I don't think that's entirely fair.

You can blame lack of advertising for people not showing up Week 1 because they didn't know it was there/back. But you can't blame lack of advertising for people watching one week and then not coming back the next. And, personally, I think it's that fact (that, every week, the show loses some of its audience) more than just overall numbers that hurts the show's chances of survival.


Steph L. - Oct 06, 2009 11:17:56 am PDT #2100 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sady from Tiger Beatdown in Dollhouse: "Dear Joss Whedon, thank you for your interest in Feminism, but we cannot make any hiring decisions at this time."

On AD:

Alexis Denisof is on the show now. Hi, Alexis Denisof! Missed you! Here is a fun fact about Alexis Denisof: although he is from the States – I know this! I have Googled! – he has, for some reason, the most unconvincing American accent I have ever heard. Brit it up, Wesley! You know you want to!