I'm not clear on what Topher was checking, but even supposing that the Caroline wedge was empty, I say Caroline is still in Echo somewhere. Topher being so sure that when you wipe someone they are thoroughly wiped, Adelle saying that Alpha's original personality was irrelevant, both clearly wrong - Alpha snapped not just because he had a bunch of personalities in his head but also because that original personality (that shouldn't, according to Topher, have been there at all) was a serial killer in the making and fixated on Echo. No coincidence that that first victim looked a lot like both Whiskey and Echo.

So, I could go either way on Caroline still being on the wedge, but she's not exactly dead, regardless.

So, I could go either way on Caroline still being on the wedge, but she's not exactly dead, regardless.

Especially given Echo's last line in the episode.

Didn't Alpha threaten to use the wedge to keep making "Carolines" and then keep killing them? That would only be consistent with the Caroline identity staying on the wedge after imprint.

yes. he was planning to keep imprinting Carolines all over the land.

Hm, that's true. Perhaps he deleted the Whiskey imprint instead of taking the wedge so that they wouldn't know that he took it. I mean, Alpha took the trouble to put the imprint away, wrap it back with the paper and the rubber band so he didn't want them to know that he had that imprint, but he didn't care that they knew that he had the Caroline imprints.

Did he imprint her with the Whiskey imprint so that she would know him? (side note: who's fantasy is it to spend some time with a thrill kill couple)

He said he needed that imprint to help him escape - she stole the car, for example.

side note: who's fantasy is it to spend some time with a thrill kill couple

Somebody who enjoyed Natural Born Killers WAY too much.

who's fantasy is it to spend some time with a thrill kill couple

>Somebody who enjoyed Natural Born Killers WAY too much.

I was thinking maybe a fan of the Warren Beatty / Faye Dunaway Bonnie and Clyde. Which Ginger totally called. Matt the Bruins fan "Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers" May 1, 2009 7:10:39 pm PDT (Note: I linked to Matt's post preceding Ginger's cause it is needed for context.)

who's fantasy is it to spend some time with a thrill kill couple

I was thinking it was someone with murderous fantasies, that thought he was going to get to be part of the fun, not the victim.

Hrm. I fell behind on the show (I didn't have the heart to watch it after the Sarah Connor finale, because, well, Sarah Connor rocked). I am now caught up, and hrm.

I am in the camp who spoiled themselves for the Alan Tudyk thing and regrets it in retrospect. On the other hand, I'm kind of glad I wasn't reading the thread here, because y'all totally called the Doctor as Doll thing, and that shocked me in this episode.

I liked the way the last two episodes tied in together -- the idea of saving someone, Ballard trying to save Caroline and failing, then Alpha "rescuing" her, then her saving herself, and Ballard being able to help. And I cheered out loud when they set Madeline/Mellie/November free, because really, Ballard needed to atone for what he'd done.

I would cheerfully watch the Boyd/Ballard show all day long.

Mostly, I think I end up frustrated by this show. So many episodes were wasted or flat-out distasteful, but I do think the whole series had a lot of interesting things to say about identity and free will. But man, it was painful getting there.

Edit: Oh, one last thing. Next time we require a crime spree couple from central casting, can we skip the Southern accent? THX.