You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


beth b - May 09, 2009 8:10:04 am PDT #1602 of 5827
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

When he saves Caroline, he will be killing the Dollhouse. h can't kill the dollhouse yet. It is bigger than he thought.


omnis_audis - May 09, 2009 8:58:43 am PDT #1603 of 5827
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

And Amy Acker's a dude. Who'd have thunk it?
Does that make me gay? (not that there is anything wrong with that)

I'm wondering how the hell they program an imprint to not notice that its body has changed genders.
Or how they can recognize themselves in another body. In Alpha's bunker, with old/new versions of same person, I was a tiny confused.

I liked the jerky edits with Alpha's different personalities and the performances
Oh this! Very much. Really hightened the creepiness. Excellently played by AT. And who was the editor? That person had a handful this week, and did an AWESOME job!

"You saved me." Aww.
Ya, I did the same "aww". He finally saved Caroline, just not how he wanted to.

So here is a question. The show started out as a way to show off ED, right? I think most of us are in agreement, that the other actors are shining far more than she is. Would the show survive with her just as an Exec Producer? Would she want to? Would Fox can her, but keep the show?


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2009 9:18:38 am PDT #1604 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh this! Very much. Really hightened the creepiness. Excellently played by AT.

My problem was that he wasn't glitching at all last week. Why now?


omnis_audis - May 09, 2009 9:27:40 am PDT #1605 of 5827
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

My problem was that he wasn't glitching at all last week. Why now?
Adrenaline? Hormones from seeing both Alpha & Whiskey? Wasn't ready to be revealed yet? We saw quirkiness, maybe he was just holding it in better.


tiggy - May 09, 2009 9:53:59 am PDT #1606 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

My problem was that he wasn't glitching at all last week. Why now?

stress?


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2009 10:07:55 am PDT #1607 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, that's my best guess.


Typo Boy - May 09, 2009 10:31:24 am PDT #1608 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm wondering how the hell they program an imprint to not notice that its body has changed genders.

Sanders V2.0 is not a Margeret like situation where it is the same person in the old body. It is a new person based on the old Sanders, with I presume the main stuff being preserved medical skills plus loyalty to the Dollhouse. Probably both major personality similarities and differences.

Or how they can recognize themselves in another body. In Alpha's bunker, with old/new versions of same person, I was a tiny confused.

This WAS Margaret like - the same person in a new body. For Caroline subjectively this was only a few minutes after being recorded. She figured out quickly it was not her body, and recognized herself from having looked at herself in the mirror the last time she brushed her teeth, or the last time she used the women's room.


§ ita § - May 09, 2009 10:43:28 am PDT #1609 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm wondering how the hell they program an imprint to not notice that its body has changed genders.

If they can make it so that they don't recognize other changes, why not gender?


beekaytee - May 09, 2009 1:17:20 pm PDT #1610 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

I liked the jerky edits with Alpha's different personalities and the performances.

Crazy leaking out during quick takes is classic Objects in Space, eh?


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2009 1:41:55 pm PDT #1611 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I guess I was going by the notion that Saunders was still essentially whole inside Whiskey's brain. I can see imprints being programmed not to notice that unfamiliar facial features are looking back at them for the few days an assignment takes, but we haven't seen any cross-gender imprint/active setups before. And given the long-term nature of Whiskey's current assignment it would seem like a LOT of personal experience would have to be completely rewritten.

It's very interesting that Echo/Omega was quite functional and apparently sane despite having 38 different imprints in conjunction. Because I'd assume that situation would result in an incoherent mess a la Alpha even without pre-existing craziness in the physical brain. Could he have been right about what she's becoming, even ifmistaken about himself?