Lorne: My little prince. Oh…what did they do to you? Angel: Nina…tried to…eat me. Lorne: Oh, you're--medic! You're gonna make it Angel. Just don't stop fighting. Doctor! Is there a Gepetto in the house?

'Smile Time'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Typo Boy - May 09, 2009 10:31:24 am PDT #1608 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm wondering how the hell they program an imprint to not notice that its body has changed genders.

Sanders V2.0 is not a Margeret like situation where it is the same person in the old body. It is a new person based on the old Sanders, with I presume the main stuff being preserved medical skills plus loyalty to the Dollhouse. Probably both major personality similarities and differences.

Or how they can recognize themselves in another body. In Alpha's bunker, with old/new versions of same person, I was a tiny confused.

This WAS Margaret like - the same person in a new body. For Caroline subjectively this was only a few minutes after being recorded. She figured out quickly it was not her body, and recognized herself from having looked at herself in the mirror the last time she brushed her teeth, or the last time she used the women's room.


§ ita § - May 09, 2009 10:43:28 am PDT #1609 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm wondering how the hell they program an imprint to not notice that its body has changed genders.

If they can make it so that they don't recognize other changes, why not gender?


beekaytee - May 09, 2009 1:17:20 pm PDT #1610 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

I liked the jerky edits with Alpha's different personalities and the performances.

Crazy leaking out during quick takes is classic Objects in Space, eh?


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2009 1:41:55 pm PDT #1611 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I guess I was going by the notion that Saunders was still essentially whole inside Whiskey's brain. I can see imprints being programmed not to notice that unfamiliar facial features are looking back at them for the few days an assignment takes, but we haven't seen any cross-gender imprint/active setups before. And given the long-term nature of Whiskey's current assignment it would seem like a LOT of personal experience would have to be completely rewritten.

It's very interesting that Echo/Omega was quite functional and apparently sane despite having 38 different imprints in conjunction. Because I'd assume that situation would result in an incoherent mess a la Alpha even without pre-existing craziness in the physical brain. Could he have been right about what she's becoming, even ifmistaken about himself?


§ ita § - May 09, 2009 2:05:31 pm PDT #1612 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we haven't seen any cross-gender imprint/active setups before

Not explicitly, but I'd assumed that some parts, if not most could be stolen from across the gender divide.


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2009 2:10:30 pm PDT #1613 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Crazy leaking out during quick takes is classic Objects in Space, eh?

THAT'S where I knew it from. I knew I'd seen it before.


Kevin - May 09, 2009 2:14:13 pm PDT #1614 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Eliza tweets and calls Tim a new name: [link]


erikaj - May 09, 2009 3:02:11 pm PDT #1615 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!

aww, cute.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2009 10:33:48 am PDT #1616 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

TimDawg, being a fluorescent beagle, natch.


-t - May 10, 2009 4:30:01 pm PDT #1617 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Could he have been right about what she's becoming, even ifmistaken about himself?

That's an interesting idea. I don't see that Ubermensch thing playing out with her, but I could see Echo becoming as real a person as Caroline. Which would be interesting.