nods thoughtfully.

...I'm thinking a lot of Big Band numbers and smoky torch songs in the background, or maybe a live band, and a really awesome selection of cupcakes, coffees and cocktails. And bacon candy. And tapas. And great big wing back armchairs, and loveseats, and comfy sofas. Lots of velvet and gold and crazy props, like we've raided the props room of an Opera house (thinking of one of my favourite restaurants in London's Theatre district)...

Hmmm.

And costumes on display. Really melodramatic over-the-top costumes from famous operas: Devils, and Harlequins, and Courtesans and Valkyries, Kings and Queens,Shepard Girls and Masked Bravos. Soldiers and Highwayman. Zanies and Assassins and Ghosts oh my.

a practice of "deading" (corpsing? something like that*), in which someone would take something to render them incapable of voluntary movement and then, er, offer themselves up for whatever.

This was totally a plot on Law & Order!

Glitterati! Literati! Cliterati!

"What's that stuff? I didn't come here for glitter. I'm looking for a man who loves 19th century American literature."

"Sorry. You want Literati. It's that way."

And costumes on display.

Madonnas and whores!

Sort of like...consensual S&M without a safe word.

That was my other example! Along with mummification. But I like to share my wilder fanfiction experiences with others, as any Somervillain who's listened to the giant cat story when I've been drinking can tell you.

I had real thoughts yesterday, but they seem to have drifted away. Sorry.

And stuff about Shakespearean theatre, where boys played girls, then there could be all the women who have played Hamlet.

Anyway. Teppy, you around? I was thinking on the way home about your (right?) point about one not being able to consent to sex with someone before meeting them. It certainly read like something you've given a lot of thought to, so I was wondering if you could elucidate on that. It seems to me that one could consent in advance, but it's not something I've considered at length.

You can't consent to having sex with someone you've never met, because consent implies full knowledge beforehand.

Could one be said to consent to whatever happened during that time?

Sort of like...consensual S&M without a safe word.

Since it's an unrealistic fanfic scenario, I'm just going to say NO, it is not, and leave it at that.

consent implies full knowledge beforehand.

How full is full? You can consent to sex with someone you've just met, I think. How much knowledge is necessary before you can be said to be consenting?

If you can't identify who's going to shag you, I don't think you can consent, next-guy-to-buy-me-a-drink notwithstanding.

How full is full? You can consent to sex with someone you've just met, I think. How much knowledge is necessary before you can be said to be consenting?

You need to know who they are, for one thing.

Maybe I'm being too particular, but if I'm going to let some guy stick his dick in me, I want to at least know who he is before it gets started.

t edit Or, what ita said.