Angel: Miss me? Lilah: Only in the sense of…no.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Juliebird - Apr 26, 2009 6:40:52 am PDT #1394 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

but a whole show built around the self-congratulatory meta premise that television is shallow, exploitative and tasteless, and that the viewers are too...
Yeah. Still pretty much want to slap someone.

Yeah, if I buy into that theory, I feel like it's *me* being slapped in the face. Is this a cat in a box?


Fay - Apr 26, 2009 6:48:36 am PDT #1395 of 5827
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Word.


le nubian - Apr 26, 2009 7:48:11 am PDT #1396 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

and what is especially galling is that I think the main audience for DH is 18-22 year olds.

Are most really going to reflect on popular culture in this way?

Really?


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 26, 2009 7:51:19 am PDT #1397 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hasn't Joss been pretty open about the whole genesis of this idea being Eliza wanting to say something about the actor's experience in Hollywood? I didn't think the show's meta-fiction aspect was any mysterious hidden thing.

I noticed Echo never poked through her imprint this week. I wonder if the imprint is harder to overcome if it comes from a single source.

Margaret was a single, whole controlling personality, but I'm wondering if the fact she was aware of being an imprint in a body other than her own had anything to do with Echo not peeking out.


tiggy - Apr 26, 2009 8:06:38 am PDT #1398 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I think the reason Topher is coming out as my favorite character from this show is that he's a typical Jossian character that this show is generally missing. he and Sierra's scenes were the best part of the episode for me.

Seska? the bronzer Seska? welcome!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 26, 2009 8:11:43 am PDT #1399 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

tiggy: You remember me! Aww!

And I am in much agreement that Topher is the character that this show needs more of.


tiggy - Apr 26, 2009 8:17:02 am PDT #1400 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

of course i do! how've you been?


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 26, 2009 8:21:07 am PDT #1401 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

how've you been?

Great! Also complicated! Life, and all that :D How are things with you? Am hanging out in Natter if you want to, well, natter...


Laura - Apr 26, 2009 8:38:49 am PDT #1402 of 5827
Our wings are not tired.

Whatever the blatant and/or hidden premise of the show may be, I'd still like to see it be more entertaining. I'm not getting the level of great characters and brilliant banter that I was looking for at all. I don't want to come in here and be down on the show all the time, but I don't want to have to dig to find things to be happy with either.

There are some characters I find interesting, just too many that aren't.


Laura - Apr 26, 2009 9:09:31 am PDT #1403 of 5827
Our wings are not tired.

Ok, I'm trying to take a closer look at the characters since that is what usually keeps me in a show. It seems to break into 3 categories for me.

Interesting - Topher, Sierra, Victor, Dr. Saunders. In many ways it isn't how they have been written, but the performances by the actors which have been impressive. As an example of this, I am convinced that Sierra would have been interesting to me without the in-your-face abuse. Although the doctor hasn't had a direct story line (unless it was in a missed ep), still interesting.

Neutral - Adelle, Boyd, November. These 3 could easily develop into interesting characters, but aren't there yet.

Whatever - Paul, Echo. I really want to care about them, but I really don't. Alas, they really should be on the top of the interesting list.