Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

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SailAweigh - Apr 03, 2009 5:46:02 pm PDT #1133 of 5827
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think Sierra found closure not in confronting asshole rich dude, but in recognizing that Victor was there to protect her and she felt safe in that. That there was a man who would look out for her and not try to victimize her. That's where her closure was. But that confrontation had to be there for the contrast to become evident to her.

Absolutely love Victor. Still meh on Sierra, but definitely liking her better than before and she and Victor definitely are my OTP for this show.

I am curiously callous and strange in regard to November. Her story felt the most manufactured and manipulative towards the viewer, even more so than Sierra. Didn't work for me.

Really wish Echo had shot Adele.


Juliebird - Apr 03, 2009 5:56:54 pm PDT #1134 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I am curiously callous and strange in regard to November.

I was disappointed to discover her to be the weak timid one. Although, if this ends up having legs, I can see her having a lot of growth. But that's with a normal character with a real personality.

That's what distresses me about the show, with it's personality-lessness characters, moreso with the seeming reset on any glitches within the characters.


SailAweigh - Apr 03, 2009 6:00:18 pm PDT #1135 of 5827
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I really do love that Echo got a call out to Ballard during all the foufourah. I don't know if he'll have anyway to trace the call, but now he's got what seems to me positive proof that the Dollhouse exists.


Morgana - Apr 03, 2009 6:04:48 pm PDT #1136 of 5827
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I really do love that Echo got a call out to Ballard during all the foufourah

But why did she do that? If it was done when she was in that Caroline-without-her-memories state, would she have ever heard of Ballard? And as Echo she's a blank, or only knows what she's imprinted with. I don't get why she made the call.


Vortex - Apr 03, 2009 6:09:47 pm PDT #1137 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If it was done when she was in that Caroline-without-her-memories state, would she have ever heard of Ballard?

she said that she had a file, and we saw her take files from the doctor's office. She must have read his name in Echo's file.


SailAweigh - Apr 03, 2009 6:10:37 pm PDT #1138 of 5827
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

She said she found a file. I think it was planted by the mole who counted on Caroline to take advantage of whatever information was in it. So she called him.

X-posty goodness.


Morgana - Apr 03, 2009 6:11:00 pm PDT #1139 of 5827
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Oh, thank you. That helps fill in a gaping plot hole for me.


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2009 8:11:44 pm PDT #1140 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

November wasn't timid about getting naked.


Polter-Cow - Apr 04, 2009 12:30:05 am PDT #1141 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What? I missed when Echo called Ballard.

I think Dollhouse should be The Victor and Sierra Show.

I liked the episode, but I'm not sure what I want from this show anymore. It's becoming more interesting, though.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2009 12:40:30 am PDT #1142 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I missed when Echo called Ballard.

Somewhere between getting files from Dr. Saunders office and cutting the power, probably. Or between cutting the power and showing up in Topher's office.