Hannah Montana passes the Bechdel test even though it's a dopey show. So did Zoe 101 (on Nick).
The Tween shows often have that covered: Sonny with a Chance; Wizards of Waverly Place, True Jackson (black girl works at a fashion mag etc.)
Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.
'Hell Bound'
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DavidS - May 24, 2010 4:46:58 pm PDT #8484 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
DebetEsse - May 24, 2010 4:48:38 pm PDT #8485 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Not even the party committee?
Jessica - May 24, 2010 4:57:25 pm PDT #8486 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think the very fact that we can have this conversation and say "Oh yeah...there was that ONE SCENE IN THAT TWO HOUR MOVIE that qualifies!" about movie after movie after movie demonstrates pretty effectively how rare it is.
DavidS - May 24, 2010 4:59:09 pm PDT #8487 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I think the very fact that we can have this conversation and say "Oh yeah...there was that ONE SCENE IN THAT TWO HOUR MOVIE that qualifies!" about movie after movie after movie demonstrates pretty effectively how rare it is.
Very true. I'm just noting that the tween market is well served in this regard. If Sex and the City movie does as well (or better) than the first I wonder if Prexies will wake up to this market.
§ ita § - May 24, 2010 5:05:57 pm PDT #8488 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
SATC is probably the poster child for passing Bechdel not having to mean anything deep for womankind. But there is a fair chance I'm prejudging the movies too harshly based on the few episodes of the show I've seen.
Zenkitty - May 24, 2010 5:07:45 pm PDT #8489 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Cleopatra 2525!
I'm not sure whose point that proves.
msbelle - May 24, 2010 5:09:02 pm PDT #8490 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
hated that show.
The Good Wife would pass. Castle, nsm. I think Criminal Minds would as would Bones.
Jesse - May 24, 2010 5:11:01 pm PDT #8491 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Criminal Minds and Bones probably eventually, but the doers and the victims are so often men that I don't think it's a slam dunk.
Vonnie K - May 24, 2010 5:17:20 pm PDT #8492 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
The Good Wife would pass.
Oh my, does it ever. The Alicia & Kalinda (or Alicia/Kalinda, which I have no trouble buying) relationship is one of my favourite thing about the show. And then there is Diane. Christine Baranski rocks so much. In a given episode, the show usually features several scenes featuring any combinations of these awesome women that have nothing to do with the men in their lives.
TGW snuck on me to become one of the most interesting shows on right now and the Bechdeltasticness of it all is a big part of that. And then there are the terrific dialog and complicated characters and arc-y plotting like whoa.
msbelle - May 24, 2010 5:18:14 pm PDT #8493 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Designing Women FTW.