Simon: The decision saved your life. Zoe: Won't happen again, sir. Mal: Good. And thanks. I'm grateful. Zoe: It was my pleasure, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


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§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 2:12:12 pm PDT #7502 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They've found a director for Runaways. I didn't even know it was up for adaptation. Man, they better do it well.


Polter-Cow - Apr 05, 2010 2:26:10 pm PDT #7503 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

children of supervillains who are cursed with evil powers but use them for heroic purposes.

What? They're not cursed! And their powers are morally neutral!

Joss Whedon wrote installments of the comic when Vaughan was unavailable.

He wasn't "unavailable"! He stepped down! Geez, Mike Fleming.


le nubian - Apr 08, 2010 6:29:19 pm PDT #7504 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Stephanie Zacharek is leaving Salon.

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erikaj - Apr 09, 2010 5:13:34 am PDT #7505 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

It's not even a little bitter. Reading her reviews, I'm kind of shocked.


tommyrot - Apr 09, 2010 8:53:58 am PDT #7506 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The Most Ridiculous Movie Adaptations: Proof That Hollywood's Out Of Ideas (PICTURES)

E*Trade Babies?

Stretch Armstrong?

View Master?

Candy Land?


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2010 8:56:19 am PDT #7507 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Not the worst idea in the world, but isn't this really just an adaptation of the concept of war

Heh.

Pirates of the Caribbean was great and Haunted Mansion was terrible, and I don't understand why the others are being made into movies.


Atropa - Apr 09, 2010 9:32:42 am PDT #7508 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Pirates of the Caribbean was great and Haunted Mansion was terrible,

I still get irrationally cranky about Haunted Mansion. They could have done something great with it, and made it spooky and Addams' Family-ish. But they didn't.


DavidS - Apr 10, 2010 11:00:03 am PDT #7509 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So I just caught the end of L.A. Confidential on cable, and it's been on my mind lately because I listened to the audiobook version on the way down to LA last week. (Read by David Straitharn, who was, as you would expect, awesome.)

After hearing the book I knew it differed substantially from the movie so I went to wikipedia to track the difference. But that only increased the level of complexity because apparently the audiobook was abridged. Sheesh.

On the bus tour I mentioned to somebody I'd just listened to the book and they asked about the "Rolo Tomasi" part, and I had to tell them it wasn't even in the book. And Wikipedia confirms that it wasn't included in the unabridged book either.

Reading the wikipedia entry really made me appreciate what a fantastic job Hanson and Helgeland did on the script. They were really true to the characters but compressed and extracted a much leaner (though still quite complex) plot. I think it's actually superior to the book, in most respects.

Some interesting tidbits about the production gleaned from the wiki entry:

To give his cast and crew points and counterpoints to capture L.A. in the 1950s, he held a "mini-film festival", showing one film a week: The Bad and the Beautiful because it epitomized the glamorous Hollywood look; In a Lonely Place, because it showed the ugly side of Hollywood glamor; Don Siegel's The Lineup and Private Hell 36, "for their lean and efficient style";[5] and Kiss Me Deadly, because it was "so rooted in the futuristic 50s: the atomic age".[2][5] Hanson and the film's cinematographer Dante Spinotti agreed that the film would be shot widescreen and watched two Cinemascope films from the period: Douglas Sirk's The Tarnished Angels and Vincente Minnelli's Some Came Running.

Before filming took place, Hanson brought Crowe and Pearce to L.A. for two months to immerse them in the city and the time period.[7] He also got them dialect coaches, showed them vintage police training films and had them meet real cops.[7] Pearce found the contemporary police force had changed too much to be useful research material and disliked the police officer he rode around with because he was racist.[8] The actor found the police films more valuable "because there was a real sort of stiffness, a woodenness about these people" that he felt Exley had as well.[7] Crowe studied Sterling Hayden in Stanley Kubrick's crime film, The Killing "for that beefy manliness that came out of World War II."[5] For six weeks, Crowe, Pearce, Hanson and Helgeland conducted rehearsals, which consisted of their discussing each scene in the script.[9] As other actors were cast they would join in.[5]


Frankenbuddha - Apr 10, 2010 12:08:31 pm PDT #7510 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

They were really true to the characters but compressed and extracted a much leaner (though still quite complex) plot. I think it's actually superior to the book, in most respects.

The only quibble I might have is that the ending shootout is a little too Hollywood. But Bud White surviving was always part of it, so THAT part I don't have a problem with.

However, I know Ellroy was setting up Exley for a continued career in other books, so I'm not sure how that may play into to everything vs. what they did in the movie.

I do agree with you in that I liked most of changes between book and film. It's just Ellroy was setting up a bigger canvas. The movie DEFINITELY made better use of Spacey's character, even though he died earlier in the course of things.


erikaj - Apr 10, 2010 2:04:13 pm PDT #7511 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

The worst audio-abridgement I ever heard of was when somebody told me they cut LaTonya Wallace(Adena Watson) from the Year On the Killing Streets audiobook. Is it weird that I have a crush on Straithairn since I watched him play Murrow? Well, I guess I have a crush on Keith Olbermann and I've watched him play Murrow for years.