Mal: That's not what I saw. You like to tell me what really happened? Book: I surely would. And maybe someday I will.

'Safe'


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Laga - Apr 06, 2009 7:34:16 pm PDT #733 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Prior to 911 I thought Ozy was a bad bad man but that his plan would work. Post-911 I don't think the plan will hold out for very long. I used to think that Alan Moore believed the plan would work. Now I'm not so sure. My attitude about the world has certainly changed since I was 19 and reading Watchmen for the first time. Perhaps I've allowed my naivete to frame my understanding of the book this whole time. Dang it, I just finished it and now I feel like I ought to read it again.


DavidS - Apr 06, 2009 8:12:57 pm PDT #734 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From the movie I got the idea he thought he could discorporate and eliminate Dr. M. Less so from the book. Do the sources support my conclusions?

I think Brute Discorporation was always Plan A, because that offered the most control, but the less reliable Plan B (talky meat) was always factored in. He had a psych profile on Manhattan for a long time, so he was playing that angle for years. Trying to play on his disassociation and force him off-planet.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2009 3:48:55 am PDT #735 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

My impression from the book (and I'm mainly posting this so that Miracleman can swoop in and correct me with an actual cite) was that Veidt thought Plan Disintegration was worth a try, but wasn't banking on it being permanent.


Ailleann - Apr 07, 2009 4:19:09 am PDT #736 of 30000
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I also think that maybe Veidt got a little too full of himself wrt his power. He thought he was all-powerful, he thought it was a good idea, so clearly it was a good idea.


tommyrot - Apr 07, 2009 6:11:50 am PDT #737 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Movie Trivia: Heathers. What’s Your Damage?


Aims - Apr 07, 2009 6:26:57 am PDT #738 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

A real Heather - Heather Graham - was cast as Heather McNamara, but her parents wouldn’t let her take the part because they thought the language and the content were too risque.

Good thing she held out and was able to make less-risque films like Boogie Nights.


Glamcookie - Apr 07, 2009 7:32:54 am PDT #739 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Oh Heathers. I remember searching out blue tights so I could be just like Veronica! Good times.


Miracleman - Apr 07, 2009 8:02:22 am PDT #740 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

My impression from the book (and I'm mainly posting this so that Miracleman can swoop in and correct me with an actual cite) was that Veidt thought Plan Disintegration was worth a try, but wasn't banking on it being permanent.

Got no specific cite, but that was my impression as well. Disintegrat-o-Plan was more of a "might buy me a minute or two" than a "Woohoo! Zapped Dr. M into Frosted Quantum Bits! Pwned, Blue Penised Bastard!"

As for whether either the "God Hates You" or "Psychic Squid" plan was meant to, in and of itself, achieve World Peace, I don't think either was meant to. The point was to temporarily unite humanity against a common threat, then Ozy builds on that. He already had his new, more optimistic product lines in place, etc etc. His plan, I think was more of a "Yes, UNITE! Now, isn't that nice? Don't you like that? Tell you what, alien or no alien (or Hateful Blue Dong God or no Hateful Blue Dong God), let's just keep up this whole united thing, what do you say? Huh? C'mon, guys...global hug."


tommyrot - Apr 07, 2009 9:52:14 am PDT #741 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Early Buzz: The First Reviews of JJ Abrams’ Star Trek

The person who collected these excerpts of reviews claims they're spoiler-free, but I haven't read the whole thing yet....


Polter-Cow - Apr 07, 2009 9:55:02 am PDT #742 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

They are mostly very drooly.