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§ ita § - Jan 16, 2010 9:14:59 pm PST #6212 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are we sure it's not Boromir?

Sean Bean in Black Death which may go straight to DVD in the US.

Medieval England has fallen under the shadow of The Black Death. In this apocalyptic world filled with fear and superstition, a young monk called Osmund is charged with leading the fearsome knight Ulric (Sean Bean) and his group of mercenaries to a remote marsh. Their quest is to hunt down a necromancer - someone able to bring the dead back to life. Torn between his love of God and the love of a young woman, Osmund discovers the necromancer, a mysterious beauty called Langiva. After Langiva reveals her Satanic identity and offers Osmund his heart's desire, the horror of his real journey begins...


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 17, 2010 4:39:41 am PST #6213 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Thanks for saving me from seeing that, ita. I'd planned to go tonight, and that would have put me in a truly crappy mood.


Calli - Jan 17, 2010 5:11:40 am PST #6214 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

leading the fearsome knight Ulric (Sean Bean) and his group of mercenaries to a remote marsh. Their quest is to hunt down a necromancer - someone able to bring the dead back to life. Torn between his love of God and the love of a young woman, Osmund discovers the necromancer, a mysterious beauty called Langiva. After Langiva reveals her Satanic identity and offers Osmund his heart's desire, the horror of his real journey begins...

Why would someone with the power to bring the dead back to life live in some remote, probably malarial marsh? If one is going to make a pact with the devil the least one should do is insist on a nice villa in Tuscany or Alpine chalet (if they're heat sensitive--in which case, dude, poorly thought out bargain, there).

That's often bugged me about these sorts of movies. Look for your satanic pact makers in the palaces, knights! Any satanist living in a hut in a marsh is probably too stupid to worry about and will likely be impaling themselves on their own wands before the swamp soaks through your boots.


beekaytee - Jan 17, 2010 5:40:51 am PST #6215 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

That's often bugged me about these sorts of movies. Look for your satanic pact makers in the palaces, knights! Any satanist living in a hut in a marsh is probably too stupid to worry about and will likely be impaling themselves on their own wands before the swamp soaks through your boots.

BWAH. Perfect.

I also wonder about what seems to be the most popular goal among the big bads...total destruction of the world, in which they LIVE!

I much prefer the baddies who just want everyone to servelove them and peel their grapes. THAT makes much more sense to me.


Juliebird - Jan 17, 2010 6:08:55 am PST #6216 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What frustrated me about Up in the Air was the end, with the whole "look up in the sky, and the brightest light will be my wingtip as I pass over" or something.

So, he gets burned on his way to embracing a real romantic life, and? re-enters isolation? He realizes that he's so desperately alone and? accepts it?


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 7:04:01 am PST #6217 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm glad I saw the movie--I just didn't expect to feel that way when the credits rolled. It switched from being an individual realisation movie to a general sentiment.

Juliebird, at my most optimistic (I've been thinking about the movie all night) I figure that next time round he'll be better placed for something real. Some resignation, much regret.


Jesse - Jan 17, 2010 7:31:27 am PST #6218 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think he just realizes that being along is not a virtue, but doesn't know what else to do. So who knows what next?


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2010 7:41:09 am PST #6219 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, the film ends where he got the life he thought he wanted at the same time he realized he was working for the wrong thing. So he is essentially starting over.

I kinda love that about it.


Jessica - Jan 17, 2010 9:16:02 am PST #6220 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I thought the ending was needlessly heavy-handed. It would have worked better if it had just been him standing in the airport staring up at the departures board, without the VO going on for another 5 minutes explaining how we were supposed to feel about it.


Juliebird - Jan 17, 2010 10:53:33 am PST #6221 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Absolutely, Jessica. I thought the vo just muddied it. Having it as you suggest, I was reminded of the newbie saying she'd just pick the first flight anywhere (or something along the lines of just having a lark and enjoying it), and there he is at the end, standing at a crossroads, changing the reason he flies. Not to be isolated, but to go somewhere for the sake of enjoying the journey *and* the destination, But where it continued to with the VO, it just felt like he'd reverted to bad habits, but with the extra funk of knowing he's ignoring his epiphany with Sam Elliot and willfully embracing the isolation because there's no pain there.