Mal: Yeah, well, just be careful. We cheated Badger out of good money to buy that frippery, and you're supposed to make me look respectable. Kaylee: Yes, sir, Captain Tightpants.

'Shindig'


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Juliebird - Jan 17, 2010 6:08:55 am PST #6216 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What frustrated me about Up in the Air was the end, with the whole "look up in the sky, and the brightest light will be my wingtip as I pass over" or something.

So, he gets burned on his way to embracing a real romantic life, and? re-enters isolation? He realizes that he's so desperately alone and? accepts it?


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 7:04:01 am PST #6217 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm glad I saw the movie--I just didn't expect to feel that way when the credits rolled. It switched from being an individual realisation movie to a general sentiment.

Juliebird, at my most optimistic (I've been thinking about the movie all night) I figure that next time round he'll be better placed for something real. Some resignation, much regret.


Jesse - Jan 17, 2010 7:31:27 am PST #6218 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think he just realizes that being along is not a virtue, but doesn't know what else to do. So who knows what next?


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2010 7:41:09 am PST #6219 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, the film ends where he got the life he thought he wanted at the same time he realized he was working for the wrong thing. So he is essentially starting over.

I kinda love that about it.


Jessica - Jan 17, 2010 9:16:02 am PST #6220 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I thought the ending was needlessly heavy-handed. It would have worked better if it had just been him standing in the airport staring up at the departures board, without the VO going on for another 5 minutes explaining how we were supposed to feel about it.


Juliebird - Jan 17, 2010 10:53:33 am PST #6221 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Absolutely, Jessica. I thought the vo just muddied it. Having it as you suggest, I was reminded of the newbie saying she'd just pick the first flight anywhere (or something along the lines of just having a lark and enjoying it), and there he is at the end, standing at a crossroads, changing the reason he flies. Not to be isolated, but to go somewhere for the sake of enjoying the journey *and* the destination, But where it continued to with the VO, it just felt like he'd reverted to bad habits, but with the extra funk of knowing he's ignoring his epiphany with Sam Elliot and willfully embracing the isolation because there's no pain there.


Strix - Jan 17, 2010 10:59:14 am PST #6222 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Oh, Sam Elliott is in it?! Wow, that gives me a whole reason to see it.

(I have an unreasonable Sam Elliott love. I watched "Roadhouse" of few months ago just for Elliott.)


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 11:13:54 am PST #6223 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sam's role is not large at all, Erin.


Juliebird - Jan 17, 2010 11:20:07 am PST #6224 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

There's nothing unreasonable about it at all! He is sunshine and a warm, soft breeze.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2010 11:41:50 am PST #6225 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Sam Elliott is one of the bright lights in "The Big Lebowski" which is a movie with a whole lot of bright lights.

ita, I can totally understand your point about the movie hitting you in a particular way. I think I said last month that I didn't enjoy the movie as much as I thought I would. I think I wanted a hint at an origin story: how did the lead character come to this point?

Typo, he definitely fucked a lot of women multiple times - including that neighbor of his, but none seemed to have the same outlook on life like Chicago woman.

The question I had at the end of the movie is how we are to interpret his remark to his boss that he didn't remember the woman who said she was going to jump off a bridge. Did he really not remember or did he remember but was covering his coworker's butt? I'm not sure which is the more damning (or charitable) interpretation.