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You don't like Kirk?
Kirk never met an alien species whose government he didn't want to subvert. That's who he was rebelling against. His unofficial mission was to convert everyone to humanity, even if their way was working well enough for them--if it didn't make sense to Kirk, out the window it went, and in came his way.
How does Picard compare to Kirk in this? He's about as bad, right?
It used to bug me that it seemed like the Klingon High Council couldn't wipe their bums without Picard helping....
I think the Federation was more effete by Picard's time. They may have stated the Prime Directive in TOS, but it was laughably ignored. At least when Picard was messing around it was with peer societies.
At least when Picard was messing around it was with peer societies.
Oh, good point.
Wait. This kind of means I want League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but without it being really bad.
The new Holmes actually satisfies this desire more than I was expecting. There's a lot of the same blurry-line-between-magic-and-technology kind of thing going on.
And there's one scene especially that, well, if Alan Moore wasn't a hermit he'd probably be suing them for royalties. It's pretty blatant. (From a different book, but still.)
And if you haven't seen it yet, see The Amazing Screw-On Head.
YES YES YES YES YES. In fact, everyone do this anyway.
(Wait. This kind of means I want League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but without it being really bad. Should I eventually watch that movie and get it over with?)
If you do, fast forward through every scene that doesn't involve Peta Wilson and Stuart Townsend interacting.
Kirk never met an alien species whose government he didn't want to subvert. That's who he was rebelling against. His unofficial mission was to convert everyone to humanity, even if their way was working well enough for them--if it didn't make sense to Kirk, out the window it went, and in came his way.
I don't think I can expand my definition of "rebel" quite that far. Imperialistic and paternal and many other things worthy of critique, sure, but if that's rebellious then Lord Nelson was king of the pirates.
with these, the serial number is the only thing left.
I'll have to remember that. I feel that way about an awful lot of adaptations - why do they bother to call it the thing they are adapting if all that is left of the resemblance is the title? But I am not getting that irritation from the Ritchie Holmes and I don't know why. Perhaps because there have been so many pastiches and adaptations and homages already? Personal peculiarity on my part, most likely, and fondness for RDJ.
I never got the impression that Kirk respected authority. He happened to agree with the Federation, but he did things his way. I doubt all that sexing was in the manual, for instance. I also saw him as more subversive than imperialistic. He wasn't trying to impose Federation rule wherever he went, just topple the incumbent ways of thinking.
Prime Directive? What Prime Directive?