Where'd they get CAT scan from?... I mean, did they test it on cats? Or does the machine sort of look like a cat?

Dawn ,'Sleeper'


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DavidS - Oct 28, 2009 7:25:27 pm PDT #4714 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am just fond of theorizing because, hey, that's fun.

It totally is!

And just like horsies & cowboy hats doesn't automatically make a story into a western, I'd have to say scary man-eating beasts don't inherently make it horror. Which I think is how I got to here.

Yeah, but check this: Jaws knockoff movies (like, Piranha, and Alligator - both Sayles scripts incidentally) are indisputably horror movies. The fact that Jaws straddles the line between a manly seafaring adventure and horror, does not diminish the fact its influence was entirely in the horror genre.


Typo Boy - Oct 28, 2009 7:28:20 pm PDT #4715 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think there is a whole kind of horror that is based on inevitability and unstopability rather than evil. I can't think of examples from movies offhand, but from literature "Incident at Owl Creek Bridge" - definitely horror, definitely based on fate rather than evil. Maybe "Jeeper Creepers"? Ultimately the monster is just carrying out its natural (supernatural?) cycle. Pretty malign though, don't know that I have a strong case there. A lot of the twilight zone was horror rather than pure science fiction or fantasy. And a lot of those horror episodes were irony of fate rather than evil malignant villian.


Strega - Oct 28, 2009 7:30:26 pm PDT #4716 of 30000

Hey, I had to type xenomorph while I was drunk. A couple of times! And y'all don't even know. I'm good at proofreading things to make it look like I'm only kinda drunk. It's a lot like when I was recapping! Um, ahem. But if there was no proofreading I'd be posting faster and also my posts would be like this

ita theey're called xonoxen zin fuck zeno fuckfuck xemo no zeno no X E N O M O R P H
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called by people sometimes but;eoplle oh shit poe^b^beople that are like ne pg fuck this noise

So see what you're missing? I know.

(P.S. I'm going to be reading Nextwave soon.)

ZOMG

Do you have the theme song? I can email you the theme song if not. You neeeeeeeeed it. I'm pretty sure Amazon said that "if you like Strega drunkposting, you'll love Warren Ellis writing NextWave."

Edited because I fucked up my own drunken joke. Sigh.


Polter-Cow - Oct 28, 2009 7:31:24 pm PDT #4717 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I do not have the theme song! Send it to me! Do I listen to it before, after, or during reading?


DavidS - Oct 28, 2009 7:35:38 pm PDT #4718 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

based on inevitability and unstopability rather than evil.

The Final Destination series? You cheat death and death works overtime to balance its books?


DavidS - Oct 28, 2009 7:36:25 pm PDT #4719 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay, drunk unedited Strega's pretty fun.


Typo Boy - Oct 28, 2009 7:40:44 pm PDT #4720 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The Final Destination series? You cheat death and death works overtime to balance its books?

Yeah, that is a good example.


Strega - Oct 28, 2009 8:16:30 pm PDT #4721 of 30000

Do I listen to it before, after, or during reading?

Insent. I hope. If you can't open it let me know and I'll try a different deelie-o on the option thingymajiggies. Sorry to be technical. And all of the above. It will make no sense before, but don't let that stop you. It doesn't make much sense after, either. (It's not like it has spoilers, it's just ridiculous. AND AWESOME. But mostly the first thing.)

Jaws knockoff movies (like, Piranha, and Alligator - both Sayles scripts incidentally) are indisputably horror movies. The fact that Jaws straddles the line between a manly seafaring adventure and horror, does not diminish the fact its influence was entirely in the horror genre.

But I do not stoop to the petty accepted reality of what everyone calls things! That would be too easy! I think I would also say Piranha & Alligator are thrillers, not horror. As per my arbitrary guidelines above, which don't correspond to anything anyone but me has ever said, but that's because I'm being brilliant here and stuff. And you don't even know!

(And I had more to say originally but it mysteriously vanished, and I think the point was that "you don't even know" has replaced "totally," which means it's bedtime for Strega. Finally.)


Polter-Cow - Oct 28, 2009 8:18:53 pm PDT #4722 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Insent. I hope. If you can't open it let me know and I'll try a different deelie-o on the option thingymajiggies. Sorry to be technical. And all of the above. It will make no sense before, but don't let that stop you. It doesn't make much sense after, either. (It's not like it has spoilers, it's just ridiculous. AND AWESOME. But mostly the first thing.)

I listened! It was pretty ridiculous! I am looking forward to this book.

As per my arbitrary guidelines above, which don't correspond to anything anyone but me has ever said, but that's because I'm being brilliant here and stuff. And you don't even know!

Hee.


Jessica - Oct 29, 2009 4:07:36 am PDT #4723 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When I was taking genre classes in film school, the line between sci-fi and horror was drawn (very fuzzily) between Threat From Within (horror) and Threat From Without (SF). Basically that the bad guys in horror films represent dark places in the human psyche (and can be used to explore The Monster In All Of Us, etc), and bad guys in SF movies represent The Other (and can be used to explore xenophobia & fear of the unknown & stuff). Not that genre lines are ever really that clear-cut, but if you had to make a call, that was a good place to start.

I have no solid opinion on Jaws because I have not seen it in probably 15 years.