Just because someone is A. old, B. had a bad life, C. is a good artist or D. you know them, is not a reason they should go unpunished for a crime they were convicted of. Period.
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Scrappy - Sep 30, 2009 9:23:41 am PDT #4288 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
amych - Sep 30, 2009 9:25:26 am PDT #4289 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
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erikaj - Sep 30, 2009 9:29:03 am PDT #4290 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
No, absolutely not. That was just my take on why so many artists signed on. If he were my friend, I think I'd just have to say "Please don't ask me about that."
le nubian - Sep 30, 2009 9:34:14 am PDT #4291 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I recall when a bunch of artists signed a petition because Ray Charles (was it?) was imprisoned for tax evasion. At the time I was mystified because this was a serious crime and it didn't sound like there was any doubt about guilt or the general facts of the case.
erikaj - Sep 30, 2009 9:39:10 am PDT #4292 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Yeah, it doesn't make you awful(necessarily) but it doesn't make you Lenny Bruce...who made his own problems worse with drugs anyway.
Fred Pete - Sep 30, 2009 9:42:54 am PDT #4293 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.
I knew about Woody Allen and I just shook my head. Of *course* he would support Polanski (I have a very low opinion of Allen, btw).
I can only wonder what Mia Farrow (Allen's ex, star of Polanski's Rosemary's Baby) thinks. I didn't see her name on the petition.
Strega - Sep 30, 2009 9:53:51 am PDT #4294 of 30000
according to Polanski's own lawyers, the judge wanted him to serve just 48 more days.
I couldn't backtrack and find the source, but I don't think that's right either. He was imprisoned for 90 days of psychiatric evaluaton prior to sentencing. He was released after 42 days (not sure why), and the probation officer summarized the evaluations as part of his report & recommendations for sentencing.
bon bon - Sep 30, 2009 10:12:29 am PDT #4295 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I couldn't backtrack and find the source, but I don't think that's right either.
It's on page 41 and 42 of this very long pdf: [link] (paragraph 16 of the Dalton aff).
P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2009 10:16:08 am PDT #4296 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Yeah, I am sure there are those who have not even read the girl's testimony and those who would say we are "only" getting her side of the story. I know, given the atmosphere of the '70s and the fact that he had just gone through the horrific murder of his pregnant wife, I was inclined to think it was not a terrible crime. I recall getting the impression that they were both high and that he thought she was of age and that her mom pimped her out. But that isn't what happened at all--what happened was rape.
For a long time, that was the commonly-reported story. Like, until someone *here* linked to the Smoking Gun documents a few years ago, it was the only one I'd heard. It's the argument I've seen a lot of European commenters on political threads making. (They get document smacked, and then kind of get it.)
Strega - Sep 30, 2009 11:56:01 am PDT #4297 of 30000
It's on page 41 and 42 of this very long pdf: [link] (paragraph 16 of the Dalton aff).
Ah, thank you. I barely understand the legalities anyway, but... it still reads like this is all before the offical sentencing: "no hearing would be permitted until after the imposition of the prison sentence" (of the 48 days). Or is there some other reason there'd be another hearing at that point?