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erikaj - Sep 30, 2009 9:39:10 am PDT #4292 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, it doesn't make you awful(necessarily) but it doesn't make you Lenny Bruce...who made his own problems worse with drugs anyway.


Fred Pete - Sep 30, 2009 9:42:54 am PDT #4293 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

I knew about Woody Allen and I just shook my head. Of *course* he would support Polanski (I have a very low opinion of Allen, btw).

I can only wonder what Mia Farrow (Allen's ex, star of Polanski's Rosemary's Baby) thinks. I didn't see her name on the petition.


Strega - Sep 30, 2009 9:53:51 am PDT #4294 of 30000

according to Polanski's own lawyers, the judge wanted him to serve just 48 more days.

I couldn't backtrack and find the source, but I don't think that's right either. He was imprisoned for 90 days of psychiatric evaluaton prior to sentencing. He was released after 42 days (not sure why), and the probation officer summarized the evaluations as part of his report & recommendations for sentencing.


bon bon - Sep 30, 2009 10:12:29 am PDT #4295 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I couldn't backtrack and find the source, but I don't think that's right either.

It's on page 41 and 42 of this very long pdf: [link] (paragraph 16 of the Dalton aff).


P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2009 10:16:08 am PDT #4296 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I am sure there are those who have not even read the girl's testimony and those who would say we are "only" getting her side of the story. I know, given the atmosphere of the '70s and the fact that he had just gone through the horrific murder of his pregnant wife, I was inclined to think it was not a terrible crime. I recall getting the impression that they were both high and that he thought she was of age and that her mom pimped her out. But that isn't what happened at all--what happened was rape.

For a long time, that was the commonly-reported story. Like, until someone *here* linked to the Smoking Gun documents a few years ago, it was the only one I'd heard. It's the argument I've seen a lot of European commenters on political threads making. (They get document smacked, and then kind of get it.)


Strega - Sep 30, 2009 11:56:01 am PDT #4297 of 30000

It's on page 41 and 42 of this very long pdf: [link] (paragraph 16 of the Dalton aff).

Ah, thank you. I barely understand the legalities anyway, but... it still reads like this is all before the offical sentencing: "no hearing would be permitted until after the imposition of the prison sentence" (of the 48 days). Or is there some other reason there'd be another hearing at that point?


bon bon - Sep 30, 2009 12:09:28 pm PDT #4298 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Ah, thank you. I barely understand the legalities anyway, but... it still reads like this is all before the offical sentencing: "no hearing would be permitted until after the imposition of the prison sentence" (of the 48 days). Or is there some other reason there'd be another hearing at that point?

The referent is not crystal clear but in context it looks like he is saying no hearing on his deportation will be held until after he completes his prison sentence. Given clause (4) what it looks like he is saying is that as a condition of the plea bargain Polanski will waive his right to a deportation hearing and remove himself. If he doesn't do so, a hearing can be held after he completes his sentence, but if he does request the hearing it will not be looked on favorably (what the Judge could do under those circumstances, I don't know, but maybe strongly suggest deportation to INS). This doesn't strike me as a crazy request for such a lenient plea bargain, FWIW.


bon bon - Sep 30, 2009 12:29:57 pm PDT #4299 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I do admit that it seems unlikely that Polanski fled for *that*. I suspect he acted rashly, and only after fleeing realized that the plea bargain would have been yanked and an additional sentence for flight imposed.

OTOH, he was even offered the chance to come back with probably no additional jail time to serve, but refused because court proceedings would have been televised, IIRC, so I guess even no prison time at all was just too much.


le nubian - Sep 30, 2009 5:31:31 pm PDT #4300 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

fyi. I think this was linked above, but here is a salon article about Roman Polanski that recaps witness testimony. It is pretty graphic in terms of what RP did to the 13-year-old.

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tommyrot - Sep 30, 2009 6:54:22 pm PDT #4301 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wha...? Former Prosecutor: I Lied In Polanski Documentary

LOS ANGELES — A former prosecutor said Wednesday he lied when he told a documentary film crew that he advised a judge handling Roman Polanski's sex case that he should send the director to prison.

The statement later became part of the basis for a move by Polanski's attorneys to dismiss the case against the fugitive director who was arrested in Switzerland on Saturday.

"They interviewed me in the Malibu courthouse when I was still a DA, and I embellished a story," David F. Wells said in an interview with The Associated Press about his statements to the makers of "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired."

"I'm a guy who cuts to the chase – I lied. It embarrasses the hell of me." he said.

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Wells said he overstated his actions to the filmmakers because he was told the documentary would air in France, not the United States. The documentary aired on HBO.

In the documentary, Wells is depicted as conferring with the now-deceased trial judge Laurence J. Rittenband about Polanski's case. Wells says in the film the judge took his advice in deciding to renege on a plea bargain and give Polanski additional prison time.

"I made that up to make the stuff look better," Wells said. His admission was first reported in a story by former O.J. Simpson prosecutor Marcia Clark on the Web site The Daily Beast.