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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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beekaytee - Dec 20, 2015 6:43:29 pm PST #29544 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I'm with Kalshane.

I could swear I heard Harrison Ford sigh with relief as Han Solo toppled into oblivion. Or maybe a quiet, "I'm too old for this shit."

Not that he hasn't been a sport and all, but I don't think he'll be crying in his beer over this chapter closing. And, of course, there can always be flashbacks but perhaps not a lot of long shooting days .

The only part of the movie I didn't like was the soap opera length stares at the end. I suppose Luke needed a certain amount of screen time for contractual reasons but it felt weird to me .

I'm with Steph about the Kylo Ren tantrums. Not sure why there had to be so many, unless that will be significant later. And, while I get all the emo jabs, I like that actor in this role. I've never seen Girls but apparently he's award winning in that.


P.M. Marc - Dec 20, 2015 6:48:32 pm PST #29545 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Best part of the viewing experience was the huge cheer from the crowd for General Leia.

As we'd just watched the Honest Trailer for the last of the prequels, I admit that I laughed and laughed at the bratty slashing of the room with the lightsaber because, wow, such Anakin. It clearly skips a generation.

I love that Rey is like what would happen if Han and Luke had a kid (dear JJ, don't listen to me about that, though that would be hilarious, please no Jedi mpreg), and that Finn got so enthusiastic when he did something right, and oh, the poor boo latching on like a baby duck to the first two people who are actual people to him.


Zenkitty - Dec 20, 2015 7:30:50 pm PST #29546 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I loved it all. Even the ridiculous parts. Except for Han dying, but I wasn't surprised by that.

Having gone into it almost completely unspoiled and knowing nothing, I especially loved the fake-out on who the real hero was going to be. It started out with Poe's daring escape with the special droid, and then whoops, he's dead, the real hero is the brave former Stormtrooper escaping his bondage! Except whoa, no, the REAL hero is the scavenger from the desert planet (should've been a clue, right there) and how happy am I that the new Jedi is a girl? A girl who seems like an awesome combination of Luke, Han, and Leia rolled into one? Hell yeah, I'm in for this ride, and it looks like Chewie is too. Bring all the handwavium you need, we've got a spaceship.


Consuela - Dec 20, 2015 8:09:26 pm PST #29547 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I went in completely unspoiled, and as a result I gasped and whimpered when Han died. I was NOT prepared. I think I figured that if they were to kill him, they'd do it later in the series. Ah, well.

Over/under on whether Ren could ever be redeemed, since he's gone and done the one thing that Luke nearly died to avoid doing in RotJ? Also, Ren probably has a higher body-count to his name than Vader, given the populations on five planets. (Were they all in the same star system? How does that work?) (But then no one never accused JJA of having much understanding of astronomy.)

Man, I loved Rey. For one thing, every time someone showed up to rescue her, she'd already rescued herself. Every friggin' time. It was great.

She called out the stupid thing where the guy drags the girl along by the hand while they're being chased, which has always bothered me--all it does is slow him down, and throw off her balance.

She really is Leia's spiritual heir, in a lot of ways.

That said, why did Luke never train Leia in the Force?

For myself, I really don't want Rey to be a Skywalker or related to any of the old cast. I want her to be just some random kid who was abandoned on Jakku. I'm tired of dynasties.


Kalshane - Dec 21, 2015 4:48:49 am PST #29548 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Regarding Rey I wonder if one or both of her parents were among Luke's trainees that Kylo Ren killed. Which is why they never came back for her.


Dana - Dec 21, 2015 4:51:25 am PST #29549 of 30000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

For myself,
I really don't want Rey to be a Skywalker or related to any of the old cast.

I agree. I thought she'd call Luke "Father" when she found him, and I was glad she didn't.


Steph L. - Dec 21, 2015 5:06:43 am PST #29550 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

That said, why did

I wondered that, too, and my best guess is that Leia decided her role was to continue to lead the Resistance (man, I cheered when they called her "General") rather than to be trained as a Jedi.


Dana - Dec 21, 2015 5:08:39 am PST #29551 of 30000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

She obviously can sense some things, because she knew when Han died.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 21, 2015 5:18:16 am PST #29552 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Dana, I think that's kind of spoilery info for being outside the spoiler tags.


Dana - Dec 21, 2015 5:25:22 am PST #29553 of 30000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It looks whitefont to me, but I'll edit the whole post to white it out.