A good read (I thought) from Speranza, who is in slash fandom, but has lots of interesting things to say about reading the film from a Doylist perspective. A lot of her thoughts are my thoughts.
(Uh, Watsonian vs. Doylist: [link]
Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.
'Jaynestown'
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Dana - May 04, 2015 3:03:30 pm PDT #28868 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
DavidS - May 04, 2015 3:12:31 pm PDT #28869 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
(Uh, Watsonian vs. Doylist: [link])
Oooh, useful! I realize I'm mostly Doylist because whenever there were complaints about Cordy's character arc on Angel, I'd shrug and go, "Well, maybe Charisma shouldn't have done so much blow she had to change her hairstyle every week and go to rehab and get written out of the show."
Tom Scola - May 04, 2015 3:19:04 pm PDT #28870 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
And Joss just deleted his Twitter account.
Connie Neil - May 04, 2015 3:21:56 pm PDT #28871 of 30000
brillig
I think I'm a fan of the Forsythian view, myself.
edit: as in Laura is a willing beard for Clint and Coulson because she gets a nice place to live, pleasant guys to hang out with, and good looking kids out of the deal. Also, Steve and Tony were doing things in the barn Fury threatened to tear his remaining eye out over. Hence him saying he worries about Tony. See? It writes itself.
Steph L. - May 04, 2015 3:22:27 pm PDT #28872 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
A good read (I thought) from Speranza, who is in slash fandom, but has lots of interesting things to say about reading the film from a Doylist perspective. A lot of her thoughts are my thoughts.
Yeah, I recognize that a lot of what felt like bloat to me is because Marvel Studios has a damn 100-year movie plan at this point, and AoU had to set more things in place (though Thor's trip to the Pool of Revelation or whatever the hell it was, just so he could infodump to the audience, was ridiculously clunky). That's not something Joss could do anything about.
P.M. Marc - May 04, 2015 3:24:01 pm PDT #28873 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Joss also deleted it in 2013. As I was saying on Tumblr, the negative feedback he's been getting may have hastened it, but given that he's through with his promotional obligations, I expect he'd have done it within a week or two, anyhow.
Oooh, useful! I realize I'm mostly Doylist because whenever there were complaints about Cordy's character arc on Angel, I'd shrug and go, "Well, maybe Charisma shouldn't have done so much blow she had to change her hairstyle every week and go to rehab and get written out of the show."
Heh. But dontcha know she was written out because she was knocked up? ::eyeroll::
I'm actually pretty Doylist a lot of the time, but I'm also not going to completely excuse clunky workarounds or poor writing choices.
Vonnie K - May 04, 2015 3:25:19 pm PDT #28874 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
And Joss just deleted his Twitter account.
Yeah, apparently a bunch of people twitted at him with stuff like "go kill yourself," like WTF, people?
Dana - May 04, 2015 3:26:09 pm PDT #28875 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I'm a fan of the Forsythian view, myself.
I've been in my part of fandom so long, I almost have a hard time understanding why people get worked up over canon they don't like. I mean, of course I understand it, but there's also a part of me that's like "Canon isn't the boss of us!"
Sophia Brooks - May 04, 2015 4:10:11 pm PDT #28876 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I'll just say that Doyleist is very confusing when talking about Angel! I was really confused!
Zenkitty - May 04, 2015 4:43:04 pm PDT #28877 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I'm actually pretty Doylist a lot of the time, but I'm also not going to completely excuse clunky workarounds or poor writing choices.
Me too.
I've been in my part of fandom so long, I almost have a hard time understanding why people get worked up over canon they don't like. I mean, of course I understand it, but there's also a part of me that's like "Canon isn't the boss of us!"
Me too.
Have I any original thoughts? Not at the moment.