...I was the third choice.

Who were the other two?

I've always thought of olive as an undertone too, and I know jack shit about make-up. Okay, not quite jack shit, but honestly everything I know about make-up I learned from buffistas.

why does his face seesaw in puffiness so?

Generally a sign of alcoholism. You can chart how much Alex Baldwin or Matthew Perry were drinking at any point in their careers by how puffy they looked.

Olive skin isn't just one tone, though. Just like any other kind of skin. It's a range.

Well, then I don't understand undertones, because Banderas and Turturro look markedly different to me. Banderas is light brown. Turturro is pink. I stand by "I see no similarity".

Maybe my brain is only big enough to distinguish between high yellow and redbone and spot octoroons at 40 paces, but both "olive" and "blond" are oft useless for me.

Okay, I image googled. If this [link] is olive, I get it. Ish. Because I don't get this [link] And that's not undertone, that's a tan or image reproduction differences to me.

Oh, and I take back what I said about "The Turturros": [link] -- I see that as different from "factory white."

I think olive is one of those things that's easier to see in person than in a photo.

I have olive skin though most people wouldn't pick that out unless they compared my skin color to someone who has more pink or blue undertones.

Told my boss I was going down to minimal hours for the next few days. The stress of the pain and trying to get my hours in just isn't worth . Luckily we are mid-month and it isn't a big impact on my projects.

My son objects to black, white, and yellow as descriptors of skin color. He said the names should be brown, tan, and pink. And then Franny corrected him and said it should be peach, not pink.

I had that same phase, my parents like to remind me.

THEY AREN'T WHITE! I'M NOT BLACK!

Meanwhile I was jealous of all the actually brown people. Ebony and the Johnson + Johnson ads were to blame.

l recently found out my sister regarded herself dark like my father and me light like my mother. In truth,we're both high yellow, Daddy's milk chocolate, and my mother could pass for Chinese in her youth. But the shade politics in Ja. are nothing to mess with.

I'm awaiting reactions to The Edge of Tomorrow before I see it. Love the trailers, love TC outside of interviews. And also waffling on the 3D. Heard it was good, and the showings are better for me in that format. But I could also do something constructive around the apartment instead.

The worst thing I've heard about it is that it couldn't stand up to The Fault Stars movie. It's supposed to be better than his last.

I don't care how often he dies--I can't see him do the same thing again with all the raw good intent. Even if he gets a character arc in this one.