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P.M. Marc - Jun 26, 2009 10:52:10 am PDT #2632 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Identifying someone as their current gender is always the way to go. So you do NOT say "she is a male who is transgendered." Because *she* isn't a male, even if she was born one.

Yes! This. (I think one word is how most of my transfriends spell it. But either way, it is simple and elegant! And correctly identifies them!)


DavidS - Jun 26, 2009 10:53:04 am PDT #2633 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She's a transwoman, or he's a transman? Your wording was confusing. From context, I'm gathering she's a transwoman?

Bio man who dresses and identifies female. Charlie hasn't had surgical reassignment, nor do I know if she wants to. I suspect not since Annalee paid for Charlie's nose job and I gotta figure that money would've been saved up for a reassignment surgery if that was a goal. I think Charlie likes being a chick with a dick.

Hence me opting for "transgender" over "transexual" and yet I think she's somewhere past "transvestite" too. I tend to use "transgender" to indicate the more fluid gender identity that is somewhere in the space between crossdressing and surgery.


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2009 10:58:13 am PDT #2634 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

chick with a dick

Seriously, PLEASE don't use this phrase again. It's incredibly offensive.

Bio man who dresses and identifies female. Charlie hasn't had surgical reassignment, nor do I know if she wants to.

Lots of transpersons never have surgery and yet live as their chosen gender. That doesn't make their gender identity fluid. There are lots and lots of reasons that transpeople don't have surgery -- money, the fact that it's not All That, the fact that they don't want to -- but it doesn't make them NOT their chosen gender.


amych - Jun 26, 2009 10:58:25 am PDT #2635 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

You're missing the question. "He's a trans woman" is grammatically nonsensical, as the terms are used within the trans community. (And surgery isn't the point at all.)


P.M. Marc - Jun 26, 2009 11:00:07 am PDT #2636 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Lots of transpersons never have surgery and yet live as their chosen gender. That doesn't make their gender identity fluid. There are lots and lots of reasons that transpeople don't have surgery -- money, the fact that it's not All That, the fact that they don't want to -- but it doesn't make them NOT their chosen gender.

Most trans men don't have bottom surgery, f'r ex.


Polter-Cow - Jun 26, 2009 11:00:25 am PDT #2637 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Bio man who dresses and identifies female. Charlie hasn't had surgical reassignment, nor do I know if she wants to.

Huh. I thought she had boobs. Maybe I imagined them. My mistake.


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2009 11:02:50 am PDT #2638 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Bio man who dresses and identifies female. Charlie hasn't had surgical reassignment, nor do I know if she wants to.

Huh. I thought she had boobs. Maybe I imagined them. My mistake.

"Reassignment" is generally the bottom half. Lots of trans women get boob implants but don't have genital reassignment. For one thing, boob implants are commonplace and therefore "easy." Genital reassignment -- NSM with the "easy." And very, very expensive.


Polter-Cow - Jun 26, 2009 11:04:06 am PDT #2639 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ah, okay. Thanks.


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2009 11:06:48 am PDT #2640 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

We have a good friend (a trans woman) who is having surgery in Thailand later this year, and she has to be in the hospital for 2 months. I can't even imagine it. (But then, obviously, the fact that I can't imagine it is because I'm cisgender to the core.)

Anyway, she has boob implants, and has for a while. The biggie comes later. And good god damn, it is expensive.


Polter-Cow - Jun 26, 2009 11:10:23 am PDT #2641 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(But then, obviously, the fact that I can't imagine it is because I'm cisgender to the core.)

Yeah, me too. I find it hard to wrap my head around it all.