See, I'm really wondering if Loki is going to maintain the Odin ruse to rule Asgard. After all, he's LOKI. Tony was right in Avengers: Loki is a diva who wants people to know that HE is ruling Asgard, and pretending to be Odin won't give him that recognition.

Now, it's possible that, since Thor turned down the throne to go play with the Avengers, and is therefore not currently in Asgard, Loki might announce to all of Asgard the horrible tragedy that Odin is dead/ailing/missing (whatever fits with whatever ruse he wants to pull) and that Thor turned down the throne, so he, Loki, will have to rule.

But then I don't see how that happens, when a fair handful of Asgardian folks (certainly Sif, Volstagg, and Fandral [and possibly even Hogun]) know that Loki was busted out of his cell and, as far as they know, died in the fight with the Cursed. So if he just shows up on the throne as Loki, that's not going to work out. Or if he DOES, that means he has to imprison a lot of people, and I actually don't think he would do that.

So either he just impersonated Odin for that conversation with Thor to ensure that Thor was giving up his right to the throne and was heading off to Midgard, or he killed Odin/imprisoned him somewhere secret and is going to rule Asgard in the guise of Odin. I see the first as more likely than the second. Plus, if Loki killed Odin, I can't see something THAT monumental, in terms of the mythos, happening offscreen.

But then I'm left wondering, well, what IS going to happen?

I don't think Odin can be dead, because Heimdall has the ability to see everything/everyone. The only person he can't see is Loki (disguised as Odin or not), so Odin must be around somewhere. Maybe taking a leak and Loki took advantage of it.

My guess is that Odin is imprisoned somewhere, and that this situation will be a large part of the plot of Thor 3. Maybe he has found a way to dull Heimdall's sense of where Odin is?

Well, Heimdall could be imprisoned, too. Because I don't remember seeing him after the scene where he tells Odin "I committed treason." I assumed that Odin imprisoned him, which Loki would be wise to continue; that way even if Heimdall can see what shenanigans are afoot with Odin, it's not like he can tell anyone about it.

But yeah, like I said above, killing Odin, or anything major with Odin would never happen offscreen. It's too huge.

But Steph do you really think that Thor would leave knowing one of his friends is in prison for helping him?

Maybe he didn't know. The movie was a little fuzzy about the fate of Heimdall and Odin.

I thought that was explicitly part of the plan -- what they were doing was treason, everyone agreed.

Yeah, that was clear; it was just never shown what happened to Heimdall after he said to Odin, "Hey, I committed treason." I assume imprisonment, but since it wasn't clearly shown, I just wonder.

Oh sure, you didn't see it -- I just wouldn't be surprised.

Luckily, I'm seeing it again tomorrow, so I can think harder.

It could be that the treason led to exile for Heimdel, Sif, and the warriors three. So if Loki got under Odin's guard enough to wound him and force him into Odinsleep to heal, he could hide the body and take over with little fear of anyone seeing through it. And the last dark elf ship seemed to crash around where Loki "died" earlier, so the body being lost under he wreckage would be plausible if Thor did look. That doesn't address the diva aspect. But at the end of he Avengers, Loki made some serious enemies when he failed his erstwhile allies, so staying hidden while building up a power base might look appealing right now .