I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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Amy - Oct 16, 2013 10:39:44 am PDT #25665 of 30000
Because books.

Was I the only one who had to look up "courgette"?


Connie Neil - Oct 16, 2013 10:45:04 am PDT #25666 of 30000
brillig

You don't read enough Harry Potter fic, Amy. It's educational!


Polter-Cow - Oct 16, 2013 10:58:40 am PDT #25667 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Was I the only one who had to look up "courgette"?

I have never heard of it, and I am not looking it up.


le nubian - Oct 16, 2013 10:59:06 am PDT #25668 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

sitting next to P-C.


flea - Oct 16, 2013 11:01:31 am PDT #25669 of 30000
information libertarian

Courgette, in itself, is not a dirty word; it is the British term for zucchini. In *context*...


Juliebird - Oct 16, 2013 11:07:06 am PDT #25670 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Tom, those were great. I'm not getting this one, though:

A rogue botanist uncovers the truth about long- and short-level stamen length in rhododendrons. She is brutally silenced by the Illuminati.


le nubian - Oct 16, 2013 11:20:16 am PDT #25671 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I am tempted to call that "LIttle Shop of Horrors", but that's a joke.


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2013 11:26:17 am PDT #25672 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They don't all have to be good, they don't have to all get it right.

But I do get that the gay men sex==anal sex==painful or unpleasant is, intentionally or not, stigmatising a group of people, including the ones that have no intention of having anal sex.

The director is the one presenting it as an either/or.


Burrell - Oct 16, 2013 11:44:25 am PDT #25673 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Yeah, you have a point ita, I won't disagree there. But just because that's where mainstream films start, it doesn't mean they have to end there. There have already been gay sex =/= painful depictions on film, but I'm thinking art films, not big movies.


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2013 12:24:45 pm PDT #25674 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From what I've read and seen (including slash, dear god, including slash), all gay men have anal sex, and anal sex always comes with a dose of pain, extra when it's your butt v-card. For a director to say "Gay sex hurts, Daniel! We have to make sure this is conveyed in our movie!" it's...it's a face, not a facet. If we did have the sort of proportional appearances in stories that has been suggested accomplished, then a range should be representative too.

Just because there are lazy stupid criminal black people doesn't mean I don't get agitated when they start dealing the cards from the negative end of the stats.