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'Objects In Space'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Consuela - Jul 25, 2013 7:19:04 am PDT #25034 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I thought Mako & Stacker were the main thread of the movie, person-wise.

Yeah, at least there's interaction and development there. Whereas Raleigh's issues are established at the beginning and then... just sort of sit there. His reaction to re-entering the Drift after Yancy's death isn't really developed at all. Not that I mind that what limited attention was available was given to Mako instead.


Jessica - Jul 25, 2013 7:26:43 am PDT #25035 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh god it gets so much worse in the comments. Anyone who brings up anything negative about this movie gets yelled at for privileging plot/dialogue over the OBVIOUSLY brilliant visual storytelling. Dude, if the only way to see this movie as brilliant storytelling is to ignore everything except what color things are, your argument is not as strong as you think it is!

I'm not even saying I disagree with his overall point - Guillermo del Toro has an incredible eye for detail and there is always more going on with his visual storytelling that there is in the script, but that doesn't mean this movie doesn't have some major problems going on in the non-visual areas. DINOSAURS FOR FUCK'S SAKE OMG.


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2013 7:31:07 am PDT #25036 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

blue/gold is the color palette for 90% of all Hollywood films. Finding it in this one is nothing special, and someone who is such a super-special visual language snowflake should maybe realize that?

Isn't the point about blue/grey and where it's used? If Mako's hair hadn't been blue, and instead it was a big piece of Raleigh's clothing, then, yes, there's as much blue as the movie would normally have, but less message. Del Toro seems welcome to correlate.

There is a lot of shit that was shown in the movie that didn't get dialogue. The images under the opening dialogues alone could do with exploration, but I like that they didn't, because just because the robot/monster punch movie has underpinnings doesn't mean the punching shouldn't start sooner rather than later.


tommyrot - Jul 25, 2013 8:16:07 am PDT #25037 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From the Chicago Tribune:

25 Forgotten Films From the 90s: Vol. 1 (1990-1993) - Hammervision

25 Forgotten Films From the 90s: Vol. 2 (1994-1996) - Hammervision

I'm happy to day I haven't seen any of these 50 movies. Most of them I don't even remember when they came out.


Amy - Jul 25, 2013 8:27:05 am PDT #25038 of 30000
Because books.

I remember probably 85% of them, but I've only seen a few.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 25, 2013 8:33:46 am PDT #25039 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've seen 18 of them, so I'm batting about .360. I'd highly recommend The Shadow and My Fellow Americans, though most of the rest are take-it-or-leave-it movies.


Connie Neil - Jul 25, 2013 8:54:06 am PDT #25040 of 30000
brillig

I liked Medicine Man. I own it and would rewatch it if I still have a VHS machine.


JZ - Jul 25, 2013 6:37:22 pm PDT #25041 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Who was The Girl in The Shadow? Penelope two-other-names something? She sucked, brutally. But I loved Alec Baldwin, and loved the entire look of the thing, and pretty much loved everything about it except her. Her big-ball-of-wretch in an otherwise fantastic movie is really only surpassed by Jim Carrey in A Series of Unfortunate Events. Someone ever invents a way to digitally erase a crap actor's face and voice and replace them with someone who actually would have done some honor to the part and the film, I'll be all over it just for those two movies.


DavidS - Jul 25, 2013 9:31:35 pm PDT #25042 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Penelope two-other-names something?

Penelope Ann Wilson. They mock her further on in that list by saying, "Who let her carry a movie?" (re: The Handgun in Betty Lou's Bag)

She kept getting cast and kept being mediocre in so many 90s movies. I just came to presume that she had the most awesome blowjob skills in Hollywood.


Polter-Cow - Jul 25, 2013 9:42:34 pm PDT #25043 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Penelope Ann Wilson

Penelope Ann Miller.

I loved The Shadow but don't remember her being bad or anything.