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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 03, 2013 5:05:47 pm PST #23479 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Finally saw Lincoln. Damn lot of good acting in that. I didn't even really see DDL in there until after the amendment passed and he got to smile a bit more widely.

Lots of "Oh, it's THAT guy!" for sure. I felt a little bad for Lee Pace. He gets this prominent role in a prestige Spielberg move, probably destined for nominations, but his role is as the chief orator against the amendment. I swear he had the look of "What is this going to get me typed as?" but I'm sure that was just my imagination. On the other hand it was wonderful to see Walton Goggins have a definitively heroic moment, even if it was a small one.

Like so many people have been saying, the proto-lobbyists led by Spader were awesome!

And I have to agree with something I read Samuel L. Jackson tweeted - the movie should have ended at the shot with Lincoln leaving for the Ford Theater. Spielberg just couldn't stop himself from going for a more sentimental ending, sadly.


§ ita § - Feb 03, 2013 5:23:03 pm PST #23480 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know enough about the facts to understand what is a spoiler in a biopic of Lincoln. Who was the first actor playing, and what did they do?


Volans - Feb 04, 2013 4:29:49 am PST #23481 of 30000
move out and draw fire

Was Spielberg's trademark shooting star in the movie?


Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 5:40:04 am PST #23482 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It would be spoilery in the first case for a small character arc and for the second it would be what the movie did and did not cover.

Was Spielberg's trademark shooting star in the movie?

Thankfully, not I noticed. But who knows.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 6:53:10 am PST #23483 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It would be spoilery in the first case for a small character arc

But is it something that happened for real to a real person?


le nubian - Feb 04, 2013 7:34:37 am PST #23484 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Ha ha. I did not know that was Spielberg's trademark.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 7:56:43 am PST #23485 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But is it something that happened for real to a real person?

I'm not sure if it's real person or not. Probably, but only someone who was really up on their Lincoln-era House of Reprsentative members. So if you don't know the character, you don't necessarily know what they are going to do in the course of the story. Which I didn't, so I appreciated not knowing what that character was going to do, and thought others might feel the same way.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 8:58:20 am PST #23486 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not judging you, Frank, or even asking about your motivation--I'm asking about the movie.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 9:16:40 am PST #23487 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, sorry ita !. I guess I'm not really sure what you want to know, then. If you want to know whether you want to know the spoiler or not, I'm not sure what else to say that I didn't say in the "why" of why I spoiler-fonted.

Also, we're in the middle of day-of-release testing - which is going well...NOT! - so I'm basically doing drive-by catch-ups and posts and am a bit distracted. If my tone sounded defensive, it's sounded that way about everything today.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 9:33:05 am PST #23488 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just trying to work out what in a biopic makes a spoiler--and you've answered. Choice of events was one, and choice of satellite characters is another.

In general, you mention spoilers for Lincoln as a punchline (cf (ha!) the episode of Happily Divorced that Colin is in (also spoils The Hobbit)) not a precaution. So I was treating it like a precaution and trying to get more details.