It would be spoilery in the first case for a small character arc and for the second it would be what the movie did and did not cover.
Was Spielberg's trademark shooting star in the movie?
Thankfully, not I noticed. But who knows.
It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.
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Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 5:40:04 am PST #23482 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 6:53:10 am PST #23483 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It would be spoilery in the first case for a small character arc
But is it something that happened for real to a real person?
le nubian - Feb 04, 2013 7:34:37 am PST #23484 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Ha ha. I did not know that was Spielberg's trademark.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 7:56:43 am PST #23485 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
But is it something that happened for real to a real person?
I'm not sure if it's real person or not. Probably, but only someone who was really up on their Lincoln-era House of Reprsentative members. So if you don't know the character, you don't necessarily know what they are going to do in the course of the story. Which I didn't, so I appreciated not knowing what that character was going to do, and thought others might feel the same way.
§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 8:58:20 am PST #23486 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not judging you, Frank, or even asking about your motivation--I'm asking about the movie.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 9:16:40 am PST #23487 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh, sorry ita !. I guess I'm not really sure what you want to know, then. If you want to know whether you want to know the spoiler or not, I'm not sure what else to say that I didn't say in the "why" of why I spoiler-fonted.
Also, we're in the middle of day-of-release testing - which is going well...NOT! - so I'm basically doing drive-by catch-ups and posts and am a bit distracted. If my tone sounded defensive, it's sounded that way about everything today.
§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 9:33:05 am PST #23488 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Just trying to work out what in a biopic makes a spoiler--and you've answered. Choice of events was one, and choice of satellite characters is another.
In general, you mention spoilers for Lincoln as a punchline (cf (ha!) the episode of Happily Divorced that Colin is in (also spoils The Hobbit)) not a precaution. So I was treating it like a precaution and trying to get more details.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 10:16:57 am PST #23489 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
It was also the casting of this character as well. I figured Spader had been mentioned enough to not count, and Lee Pace's characater's position is obvious from his first moment on screen, plus we'd talked about him being in the movie already. This other one was a total surprise to me.
§ ita § - Feb 04, 2013 10:45:36 am PST #23490 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Just so I know the pulse of the room--are we considering casting a spoiler, or just in this case where the character even appearing is a spoiler?
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2013 10:50:36 am PST #23491 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I think it was only spoilery in conjunction with the other part I said. I don't think the actor's appearence on screen would have indicated what direction the character was going to go in or that just knowing they were in it would have given anything away, though either might have set certain expectations.
To clarify, I don't think knowing an actor in a movie is spoilery unless they are already known to be a particular character which usually means a sequel.