I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


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le nubian - Dec 16, 2012 5:45:01 pm PST #23179 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

it's uncanny valley at the shire!


Kalshane - Dec 17, 2012 4:56:41 am PST #23180 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I bet The Hobbit is the first film where the Director's Cut is a ton shorter. For DVD, you'll be able to get just The Hobbit, with all the Rise of the Dark parts cut out,

I will totally buy this if it happens.


Consuela - Dec 17, 2012 6:54:47 am PST #23181 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't mind the other Necromancer parts being involved, but I do want a Phantom Edit with 60% less troll snot and goblin-battling, and I could live without either prologue: they made the narrative bumpy and confusing.

I don't think PJ has ever heard the term "incluing".


Volans - Dec 17, 2012 7:12:28 am PST #23182 of 30000
move out and draw fire

It looks like The Hobbit opens here on the 21st, but I can't tell if it's going to be dubbed or subtitled yet. Also, the theater is in a part of town that's an Orange Zone (meaning we have to clear travel with the security officer, get a driver and an armored vehicle, check in at set times, and absolutely can't be there after dark).

Of course I saw Trilogy Tuesday at the Uptown in DC, so it won't be much different.


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2012 8:11:48 am PST #23183 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't think PJ has ever heard the term "incluing".

...Neither have I?

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Consuela - Dec 17, 2012 8:40:16 am PST #23184 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My new favorite review of The Hobbit: [link]

So funny.

...Neither have I

Incluing is an SFF term invented by Pamela Dean or Jo Walton (or maybe Mike Ford); it refers to the kind of exposition that deposits information gently into the text, rather than in massive infodumps like prologues written as encyclopedia entries, or whatever.

It gives the reader the opportunity to assimilate the information a little more organically and naturally, and doesn't bring the narrative to a stumbling halt (like, for instance, "The Council of Elrond", which is basically the complete opposite of incluing).


Jessica - Dec 17, 2012 8:57:43 am PST #23185 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm disappointed by the lukewarn reviews The Hobbit has been getting, not least of which because I want to see it again and nobody wants to go with me!

[edit: This, however, is totally fair:

"I am so handsome at you right now, Gandalf."]


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2012 9:00:19 am PST #23186 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

it refers to the kind of exposition that deposits information gently into the text, rather than in massive infodumps like prologues written as encyclopedia entries, or whatever.

Ah! I like that sort of thing.


Consuela - Dec 17, 2012 9:37:24 am PST #23187 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I like that sort of thing.

Me, too! It is more rewarding to the reader, as well, in that she gets to say, "Oh, so that is how that works!" instead of yawning through another two-page essay on the mechanism of magic in this particular universe.

There are some writers, however, who take incluing too far. t Stares meaningfully at Pamela Dean Those writers are prone to inclue plot, which can make the story almost impossible to understand without very close reading and rereading.


Polter-Cow - Dec 17, 2012 9:48:26 am PST #23188 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

GRRM does that too. There are huge things I wouldn't have gotten unless people had pointed out the clues to me.