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I wanted to believe that the writer was like 18 because then I could maybe understand. But nope.
On the other hand, the negative review over there may be even more bewilderingly ignorant, so I think I'll go back to not knowing tor.com exists.
It's not the greatest anything, but I liked Looper. Partly because it's fundamentally the same story as Drive.
huh.
how do you figure?
Huh.
I haven't seen Drive (the Blu Ray I received was woefully faulty), but does Drive put itself in a place where the inconsistency of the central conceit sabotages the...well, the everything else?
I like a movie like Memento, where you're sure there's a hole, and you'll find it, if maybe you see it again, and tug at all the threads carefully, not one where you're watching the credits thinking "But hey, if...?" Never mind the clumsy gyrations made to get the people in the right positions on stage at the right time, which is why I couldn't give it more than a guarded rec.
There were a lot of things to enjoy about it, but I can't imagine what your viewing history has been like if this is the best genre movie you've seen since 2001. And you seem to write reviews for money.
They're both stories about borderline sociopaths living in completely exploitative worlds who discover that empathy exists. And are ultimately willing to sacrifice themselves to defend it. I guess for me they're both about monsters discovering that they're monsters. And I like that kind of thing.
Huh. I never thought about either movie that way (I thought you were going for the "defending a child from bad people" aspect ), but that reading makes me like Looper more. I don't entirely see it in Drive.
Well, defending a child bit is certainly there too, but I think it's more specifically "defending a child who has what I never did." Which I know, intellectually, is not as explicit in Drive but... all I can say is that to me it was pretty clear. I keep thinking about doing a scene-by-scene breakdown in my spare time but bets on when that'll happen.
ita, sorry, I don't really understand your question. I know people who didn't like Drive because it wasn't the heist movie it was marketed as. I went in knowing Ed Brubaker had recommended it, so I expected a live action Criminal, which is about what I got.
I'm kind of with P-C about not seeing it entirely with Drive. Drive also had better music, so that's a 2nd stumbling block!
Thing is, I saw a lot more character growth of the main character in Looper than Drive. The director of Drive (and writer) made some choices in minimalism (on purpose) which makes the viewer fill in a lot of the character's motivation.
No such gaps really exist in Looper, so that's part of why I don't see it.
I still feel a really strong "this is a western"/noir vibe coming off Looper. I could see Bogart or Brando tearing this role up.
Does Drive have the logical consistency of a wet piece of toiler paper, which runs the risk of undermining any narrative arcs they're trying to convey?