I'm fairly certain I said no interruptions.

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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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le nubian - Oct 04, 2012 8:33:28 pm PDT #22602 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm kind of with P-C about not seeing it entirely with Drive. Drive also had better music, so that's a 2nd stumbling block!

Thing is, I saw a lot more character growth of the main character in Looper than Drive. The director of Drive (and writer) made some choices in minimalism (on purpose) which makes the viewer fill in a lot of the character's motivation.

No such gaps really exist in Looper, so that's part of why I don't see it.

I still feel a really strong "this is a western"/noir vibe coming off Looper. I could see Bogart or Brando tearing this role up.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2012 8:39:23 pm PDT #22603 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does Drive have the logical consistency of a wet piece of toiler paper, which runs the risk of undermining any narrative arcs they're trying to convey?


Polter-Cow - Oct 04, 2012 8:51:35 pm PDT #22604 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thing is, I saw a lot more character growth of the main character in Looper than Drive.

Agreed.

I still feel a really strong "this is a western"/noir vibe coming off Looper.

Ooh, yeah.


Polter-Cow - Oct 04, 2012 9:04:58 pm PDT #22605 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think this review generally encapsulates my feelings. Although more than half of it is just summarizing most of the movie.

This one is good too. His quibbles are my quibbles!


Jessica - Oct 05, 2012 4:40:30 am PDT #22606 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

... I rather hope he doesn't. Some things shouldn't have sequels. (At least, not official ones.) You can't put the lightning back in the bottle.

Buttercup's Baby has been a running joke since the original novel was published. I think at one point you could actually write to the publisher and have it sent to you, but instead of a book you got a letter of apology explaining that it didn't exist.


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2012 4:53:27 am PDT #22607 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The first chapter of Buttercup's Baby is in one of the later editions.


Consuela - Oct 05, 2012 8:07:27 am PDT #22608 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, no, apparently Goldman has been trying for a while to write a sequel, but it never works.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2012 8:17:28 am PDT #22609 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

His quibbles are my quibbles!

That reviewer calls it thoughtful, which I just can't. Way too much handwavium, and no little bullying of the audience to just stop thinking so hard and just shut up and accept the ride.

Even though the ending risked going up in literal flames, hell, I'd call the ultimate failure of Sunshine more thoughtful than this seemed to be. They both collapse under their own weight, but Sunshine sure went out of its way to tip the whole thing over, whereas Looper just doesn't have a stable base.

I loved the moment (in Looper) when the door opened (that could have a couple ways to finish the sentence, huh?) to reveal Garrett Dillahunt. Raising Hope aside, the audience knew shit just got a whole lot realer, and reacted appropriately.


Tom Scola - Oct 05, 2012 10:34:03 am PDT #22610 of 30000
hwæt

Tim Burton: How did it all go so wrong so fast?


Strega - Oct 05, 2012 2:05:32 pm PDT #22611 of 30000

I saw a lot more character growth of the main character in Looper than Drive.

I don't know, I don't see all that much in Looper either. It's slight change on one axis.

Does Drive have the logical consistency of a wet piece of toiler paper, which runs the risk of undermining any narrative arcs they're trying to convey?

I would say no, but I wouldn't describe Looper that way either so I doubt my verdict is of much use.