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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 5:59:45 am PDT #21346 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

*sits with Vonnie*

that little lunge thing he did before he jumped into the big fan? that's something he really does to loosen up before a scene. Tom Cruise saw him do it and had the director work it into a scene.


Vonnie K - Jun 27, 2012 6:09:38 am PDT #21347 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

that little lunge thing he did before he jumped into the big fan?

Yeah, that really highlighted his... er, assets. He is a wee man (he's gotta be around the same height as Tom Cruise, no? I wonder whether that's one of the reasons he was picked for the role) but so compactly built. The whole package (hee hee /am twelve) really works for me. Boy, does it ever.


tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 6:21:46 am PDT #21348 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

yeah...he and Tom are pretty much the same height. Jeremy's imdb profile claims 5'10", but there's no way. as long as he's about my height, i care not!


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2012 6:34:02 am PDT #21349 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

People told me "but he was great in Tropic Thunder!"

No, he was really irritating. I haven't enjoyed him in anything for ten years. I'm not really bargaining on that changing soon.

I just read an anecdote about Tom Hardy and Christian Bale hugging each other because they were really tired. Part of me is convinced that was a time bomb waiting to go off, but it seems to have been uneventful.


Vonnie K - Jun 27, 2012 6:43:26 am PDT #21350 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Jeremy's imdb profile claims 5'10"

HAHA. Oh, publicists. He's probably around 5'7". 5'8", tops. Which is plenty tall for me. Also: an age-appropriate crush-object!


tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 7:15:48 am PDT #21351 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Tom's says a more a believable 5'7". Jeremy totally doesn't look 41. somebody on tumblr linked to one of his first commercials(which is a totally cheesy Koday commercial) and he looked to be about 16 or 17. he was 25. haha!

there was nothing great about Tropic Thunder, in my opinion. not my humour in the least.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2012 7:25:14 am PDT #21352 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I liked almost everything else about Tropic Thunder. RDJ was golden.


erikaj - Jun 27, 2012 10:34:23 am PDT #21353 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I thought it was very funny...and I was prepared to be *pissed*, too.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2012 10:44:26 am PDT #21354 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm sure it will be/has been used to justify all sorts of ill-considered blackface.

Hello? See this point? Let me try tossing it to you again.


Strega - Jun 27, 2012 11:14:44 am PDT #21355 of 30000

But it doesn't change my visceral reaction that the movie is all sad and stuff when it's not boring.

Oh, of course -- I'm definitely not trying to convince you to like it. The movies work for me, but as noted my view of reality is on the bleak side. And if we all felt the same way, it wouldn't be a very interesting conversation.

So here's how you're wrong... (Kidding!)

Batman's not just taking the blame for Dent's death, he's taking the blame for the people Dent killed. And that actually helps him with a couple of problems: amateurs are imitating him, and bad guys have figured out that he’s got rules. If everyone thinks he’s a murderer, it stops what remains of the hero-worship and scares the criminals. And I don’t know that trashing Dent’s reputation would save Batman's -- his reputation takes some hits once the Joker says he'll keep killing until Batman unmasks.

I don't think there actually is a lot of time spent on the cell phone hack. But I get that it feels long, because it is pretty silly. Basically there's one scene of Fox harrumphing about how this is awful , and Batman’s all, “you’re the only one who can work it, so FACE” and then Fox says, “I’ll do this one time, but then I quit,” and then at the end the thing goes kaboom and Fox is like, “Oh, what a delightful prank.”

On Dent’s importance -- It’s stressed repeatedly that if Dent’s seen as yet another corrupt official, all of his prosecutions will be tossed out. And there’s precedent for Gotham loving martyrs, since the death of the Waynes apparently horrified people enough to halt the League of Shadow’s first attempt to smash Gotham. (Through... methods?)

I am amused that in BB the LoS sorta comes off like Wile E. Coyote. “We had this complicated long-term plan to accomplish our goal. It seemed to be working perfectly, but a one-in-a-million event caused it to go wrong. Instead of trying that again, we’ve moved on to a different, even goofier scheme!"